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Luke and Anakin Skywalker. Hands down.
Thank you!
The Father's a whiny b**chman whos attempts at seduction are so bad that I seriously thought Padme was brain damaged.
Luke is a wall to wall victim- his whinging in Bespin was just embarassing, it's a wonder Darth thought he was worth the effort.
And he couldn't even kill the Emperor.
Agreed.
"But I was going to Tashi station to pick up some power convertors..."
"I AM ready for the trials..."
It's even painful for me to watch them. On the other hand, I now see where Luke got it from.
On the other hand, I now see where Luke got it from.
Luke is very much his father's son.
On the other hand, I now see where Luke got it from.Luke is very much his father's son.
The Skywalker boys in general both riding on the waaaambulance at all times.
Wow, I'm not the only one here who hated Holden Caufield, that makes my morning. He was another character I fervently hoped would die.
There are many who hate him.
I wouldn't consider Meursault to be at all whiney. I mean, this is a guy that didn't even cry at his mother's funeral and shot an Arab on the beach for no reason. Until the very last chapter, he's a human-shaped hole in Algiers.
Then again, there's a song by The Cure about The Stranger, so it may still end up that way.
Edit: And as long as we're discussing The Existentialists, almost all three characters in Sartre's No Exit are pretty whiney. Granted, they've got a bad situation, but come on.
The Skywalker women, however, seem to be pretty tough. Able to take what the galaxy throws at them in stride, and they even make decent leaders.
They do, however, lack all agency when it comes to themselves, and just sort of sit around waiting for their whiny men (or brothers) to come along and save them.
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Anakin. Hands down whiniest, worst 'hero'. Any child who grows up as a slave on an harsh planet and becomes a golden disciple of an exacting order would/should have an appreciable amount of maturity and focus. Anakin was a spoiled suburban teenager.
A lot of people have said Frodo, but I think that's unfair. If you can't whine about having the ultimate monkey-of-all-monkeys on your back, what can you complain about? Maybe the psychology was too subtle. Instead of an evil ring he should have carried a fat donkey on his back for the entire trilogy. "Shut up about that damn donkey Frodo! Now, climb."
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Hamlet.Huh. An interesting choice, CH.
He is pretty whiny, but he whines with more elegance than anyone else. "To be or not to be," and all that... :)
Meh...he actually had something to whine about....he's probably the only Shakespearean tragic hero that didn't do anything to deserve what he got...
Okay, I am going to jump on the band-wagon. Shinji Ikari ftw...
nothing like your dad looking at from behind his desk, hands steepled saying...
"I have no time to waste on a petulent child..."
and snarkily says "You may leave..."
Seriously the few times you think he might actually start getting a little spine or confidence, he completely cracks! I agree that there are a lot of other whiny characters out there...but none match (and to quote Asuka...)
"The Pathetic Shinji!"
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Okay, I am going to jump on the band-wagon. Shinji Ikari ftw...
FTW: For The Win —or— FTL: For The Loser? ;D
nothing like your dad looking at from behind his desk, hands steepled saying...
"I have no time to waste on a petulent child..."
and snarkily says "You may leave..."
Yeah, and all the while using you to advance his own goals.
Gendo is such an a@&*%@~, it's hard to not enjoy watching him. I don't like him, but holy cats he does the uncaring antagonist so well!
Luke and Anakin Skywalker. Hands down.
You beat me to it. How a whiny little b@#&& like Anakin became Vader is beyond me.
"Luke, I am your father. Join the Dark Side, and learn to stop being such a whiny little B@#$%."
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'll never stop whining! NEVER!"
How many times in the entire sixty four thousand page epic does Harry actually do something...
I hate it when I agree with you.
Also going the protagonist route: Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov and Pfc. William Hudson.
We're on the same page. Harry Potter and the Passive Protagonist should have been the last book in the series. How many times in the entire sixty four thousand page epic does Harry actually do something without (i) his friends doing the hard work for him or (ii) some stupid magical plot device. I can think of one or two, and each of them occur in the fourth book.
Personally I think it's refreshing to have a protagonist who can't do everything anyone else can do, better. In any case, even if you don't like his dependance on teamwork and luck, it's hard to accuse Harry of being whiny. With the exception of (what was it, the 4th book when he gets the teenie-weenies?), he's pretty stoic and forward-thinking.
Oh yeah, Peter Pisser is the whiniest hero of 'em all. "Oh no! I have a gorgeous girlfriend who genuinely loves me and awesome superpowers...how could my life be any worse?!" Well, I can tell you how to make all of our lives a little better--start with the tiniest trace of fashion sense.
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I'd just like to point out that "ballgags" were mentioned twice in the first 15 posts of this thread, one of them even specifying colour. That's more than I've ever seen them mentioned on the whole messageboard (I have an Excel spreadsheet I update frequently with ballgag references).
I am a little concerned.
YOU have a spreadsheet of Ballgag references and you are concerned because we used the word?!?! I'll be Mr. Kettle, you be Mr. Pot.
Is that not one of the Seven Words You Can't Say On The Paizo Forum?
In terms of movies and possibly comics and other mediums, who do you think is the Whiniest Hero? I personally have never run across a bigger whiner than the karate kid, though the skywalker boys are also pretty darn whiny. However, there could be someone I have overlooked. Thoughts?
The Pumaman.
Anyone know anyone worse?
YOU have a spreadsheet of Ballgag references and you are concerned because we used the word?!?! I'll be Mr. Kettle, you be Mr. Pot.
I only maintain my records as ammunition for the day when I fire off letters to various world leaders about moral decay etc.
In terms of movies and possibly comics and other mediums, who do you think is the Whiniest Hero? I personally have never run across a bigger whiner than the karate kid, though the skywalker boys are also pretty darn whiny. However, there could be someone I have overlooked. Thoughts?The Pumaman.
Anyone know anyone worse?
But he was cursed with all the powers of a pew-ma (that's the way Donald Pleasant says it). He could fly, and walk through walls, and hop reasonably well, and he could even go into a deathlike trance when his huge aztec side-kick/pro-wrestler dude sat on him and told him how, just like a real puma....
Oh, and he had to paw at Donald Pleasant....
I feel funny. How many times has the term ball-gag been used in this thread?
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Hamlet.Huh. An interesting choice, CH.
He is pretty whiny, but he whines with more elegance than anyone else. "To be or not to be," ....
The verbal equivalent of done-done-done-dah.
MST3k 4ever,
GGG
My vote: Louis Pointe du Lac or pretty much any fictional vampire created in the 90's.
But especially Louis, who would go on to the silver screen only to be played by a whiney Brad Pitt.
A beast I am, lest a beast I become!
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"Luke, I am your father. Join the Dark Side, and learn to stop being such a whiny little B@#$%."
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'll never stop whining! NEVER!"
Anikin's reply (mirroring his first moments as Vader): NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Anne Rice made me never want to be a vampire. If all you do with immortality is whine? Gah! Shut up and stake yourself, already!
Anne Rice made me never want to be a vampire. If all you do with immortality is whine? Gah! Shut up and stake yourself, already!
Hah, it was actually quite funny to notice in one Vampire campaign we played that everyone had a character who more or elss enjoyed being a vampire. We were worried Mark Rein*Hagen will send angst police after us, should he find out.
We were worried Mark Rein*Hagen will send angst police after us, should he find out.
He did, but after much squabbling, they decided 'why bother?'