Casting Spells for Gold


Rules Questions


On page 159 of the pathfinder core rulebook it states that a spellcasing service costs CL*spell level*10gp. Is this intended for player use if they sell uses of spells? For example, a PC at CL 10 sells spells at a minimum of 100gp a pop, and by RAI aren't high level spell-caster's rare and thus in demand?


At that point though you are operating a business and should use those rules in Ultimate Campaign.

Just because you can charge that much doesn't mean you will have the clients. So, it becomes a business. Can you get the clients, who are your competitors, etc.

Anyhow, most people do not want to role-play a business. :)


Mostly i was thinking of how PC's could scrounge for coin without a craft/ perform/ profession check. in which case is this toomuch gold for a 10'th level party, or reasonable? Assuming they don't create a store.


If they're scrounging you might let it works once it a while, but realistically most people shouldn't have the money to pay for spell casting. And even then, divine spells will be more in demand than arcane spells. And most of the divine spells are likely to be provided by a local cleric of a good god, provided that once exists. Otherwise, anything else would likely be a luxury.


hmmm... so it seems to me that its tied directly to location wealth, so it never works in a small hamlet, but a few times in a large metropolis.

Lantern Lodge

You want to use this as a PC, but it's an even better tool for a GM.

If the GM has a roleplaying reason to engage you (e.g. the village elder offers you money to remove a curse on a young child, which leads to an adventure), or simply feels he needs to give you money (e.g. you're broke and need travelling money and it's bogging down the adventure), the GM can always have someone approach you offering to pay for spellcasting services.


Quote:
Class Abilities: You can use a class ability to provide a service in the settlement to earn capital. For example, a fighter could train a noble’s child in swordplay, a cleric could heal townsfolk, and so on. Choose either one type of capital (Goods, Influence, Labor, or Magic) or gp, and attempt a check (1d20 + your character level + your highest ability modifier – 5). You may take 10 on this check. Treat this check as your skill check result for using skilled work. -- UC pg 79

As per the rules you earn 1/10 of your check in gp per day.

Ex- 10th level cleric, 20 wisdom who takes 10 earns 2gp/day
10(take 10 on d20)+10(character level)+5(wisdom)-5=20 silver
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High level casters wouldn't be in demand, because people cannot afford their services. If the high level caster was charging 1-2 gold per spell there would be a high demand.
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Other ways to make money
Trait Favored Son (local noble) - Allows you to sell treasure at +10% (normally a 1000gp item sells 500gp, you sell it for 600)
Trait Hedge Magician - Allows you to make magical items for 5% less. (You make 1000gp item per day and sell it for 500. It cost you 450 to make it so you make 50gp/day).
Spell Blood Money + Masterwork transformation - Lets you make masterwork weapons for d6hp loss. (earns 150gp/casting)
--Knowing other ways in the game to make money the DM should let you spell your services for 10+level+stat modifier in gp per day.


The downtime rules are quite clear on this, as listed above. If you aren't doing 'skilled work', you can choose to do work using 'class abilities'. The reason it seems so much lower than the going rate for spellcasting services, is that it is abstracting the inconsistent earning opportunities over days. The odds of having someone come to you every day to have you cast spell after spell is slim. (Have you ever gone back to that town spellcaster day after day paying 10*cl*sl every single day)?


I will say, though, that Craft/Perform/Profession aren't he only skills that can earn you money. Depending on the RP spin you put on it, any skill can be used as a potential source of income. Ultimate Campaign lists out quite a few different ones, with some great RP examples of how to explain their use.


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As anyone who has ever worked freelance will tell you, the job is not the thing you do, the job is finding paying customers for the thing you do.

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