Race building.

[divineshadow]

I am using the ARG to whip up a few things and was wondering how many points others think powerful build would be. So any suggestions? I feel like somewhere in the 2-5 range.

[Riuken]

Four (4), since it isn't as powerful as being large (at 7 points), but doesn't have any of the downsides of being large either. I'm assuming you mean the powerful build racial trait from half-giants (Psionics Unleashed. Copyright 2010, Dreamscarred Press.)

[divineshadow]

Yeah which is a direct rip of the same racial ability from half giants in 3.5. Also a few other races got it.

[Excaliburproxy]

I would say 4 or 5 to be more or less safe. Flight is 4 and sorta replicates a 3rd level spell constant effect (that is to say fly) while powerful build sorta replicates a 1st level constant effect (lead blades).

I am not sure if this is really advisable, though. Unlike a fly speed, size increases from lead blades and enlarge person would stack with the weapon size increase from large build. This might result in pretty dramatic increases in damage output for martial character that are able to get these buffs down. I probably would not want this in an official rule set, I guess.

I say treat it as a 4 point ability but also maybe ask your players not to build their characters around stepping up their damage size (like maybe smile and nod as the party caster casts enlarge person but frown upon the martial character picking up lead blades).

Those are my thoughts.

[divineshadow]

This is for an npc race so not too worried. The npcs primary attacks are the chains from his shackles and a gauntlet. So even if they do stack its not dmg optimization. The party would have to figure out how to convince him to pick up another weapon lol.

[Excaliburproxy]

Well, even if they hand the man a greatsword, I would not be too worried as it will be left up to your better judgement anyways (plus I assume he is not a ranger or something that gets spells).

So cool beans, then.

[divineshadow]

Looking at bloodrager. He was originally way back in second a barbarian. But with his planar heritage and love of fire I think bloodrager might be a better pick thematically. He also isnt very bright so he not really tactically or strategically adept. He more of a "Thok smash" type and "ooooohh pretty fire I make fire too". Type.

[Cyrad]

I'd say it would be a 4 RP advanced trait. If you nixed the ability to stack it with similar effects, I would make it a 4 RP standard trait.

[Excaliburproxy]

Cyrad wrote:

I'd say it would be a 4 RP advanced trait. If you nixed the ability to stack it with similar effects, I would make it a 4 RP standard trait.

I think that can be done most cleanly by specifying that enlarge person and other such effects would not increase the size of the race's weapons as they are already appropriately sized for a large creature.