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When a player encounters a card that requires a "combat" check to defeat, can another player at the same location contribute his combat ability to the check?

Example:

Valeros and Lem are at the same location. Lem encounters a monster. Can Valeros contribute to the encounter with, say, his longsword (I'm assuming no special power that allows him to do it - I don't have the game with me right now)?

Side question: it seems to me that only the player encountering whatever can roll the dice. So I would guess that if another player contributes to the encounter, whatever dice are involved in the contribution are rolled by the player encountering whatever it is. Is this right?


No. Notice Valeros' Longsword says "For your combat check..." and the monster Lem is encountering isn't Valeros' combat check, its Lem's.

Technically, yes. In my group of 6, we often play that the person playing the card gets to roll the dice. Technically, it should be the person encountering the card, but we say "Rolling dice is fun!" and that is a little tiny reward for helping another player.


If a boon card's power says "For your combat check", it can only be used for your check. The distinction between "your check" and "a check" is very important. Valeros does have a power that let's him add to any combat check attempted by another character at his location, though.


I worded my question poorly. I'm aware of the distinction between "your..." and "a...". Probably I should have picked somebody other than a fighter.

Say the "party" is Sajan and Lini. Lini encounters a monster. Can Sajan, who is at the same location, attack that monster? Not "play a card", just use his basic combat die (or possibly his "flurry" power that increases, iirc, the size of the die).


No. You have to deal with your own encounter. Others can add dice or bonuses our traits or effects. But they can't take your turn for you.

Rulebook wrote:
No One Else Can Take Your Turn for You. Whenever you encounter a card or make a check, you—and only you—must resolve it. No other character can evade it, defeat it, acquire it, close it, decide what to do with it, or fail at doing any of those things. If Sajan encounters a monster, Merisiel can’t evade it for him. If Kyra encounters a Ghoul, Seoni can’t attempt the check to defeat it. If Amiri encounters a Battered Chest, Lini cannot use Thieves’ Tools against it. If Valeros encounters a Spyglass, Harsk can’t attempt the check to acquire it. If Ezren defeats a henchman at the Sandpoint Cathedral, Seelah can’t discard a blessing to close the location. If the game tells you to do something, you have to do it.


Ed Reppert wrote:

I worded my question poorly. I'm aware of the distinction between "your..." and "a...". Probably I should have picked somebody other than a fighter.

Say the "party" is Sajan and Lini. Lini encounters a monster. Can Sajan, who is at the same location, attack that monster? Not "play a card", just use his basic combat die (or possibly his "flurry" power that increases, iirc, the size of the die).

Even though you aren't playing a card, an unarmed attack is still something that you can only do for your own combat check.


Hawkmoon269 wrote:

No. You have to deal with your own encounter. Others can add dice or bonuses our traits or effects. But they can't take your turn for you.

Yeah, I know that rule. I was thinking like an RPGer - if two people are in a place, and a monster pops up, they can both fight it. I thought of it like assisting the player who's encountering the monster (or whatever), but I guess you can only do that by playing cards or exercising powers that specifically allow an assist (like Harsk's Ranged combat power that allows him to add 1d4 to an encounter in another location).


Right. There are lots of ways to do that. Like CSouth said above, look for "a check" on cards. There are lots of allies, spells, weapons, and items that can help other characters. Or try out Ranzak to let other players deal with your banes for you.

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Also, if someone is encountering a bane with multiple checks to defeat (with a Then, not Or), the encountering player only needs to attempt one of those checks. Someone else can make the second check. At least, if I understand that rule correctly. Our 4 man group has never decided to do anything but go all out soloing a monster, so I can't say for sure.


Yes. The encountering character has to do one of the two (the first or second) and another character can do the other one.


So for example Ezren and valeros are in the forest. Ezren encounters sneak (before encounter suceed at wisdom check 8 or discard 1 card) can he do the check and let valeros do the check to defeat?

Likewise if valeros encounters the sneak can he let ezren do the wis check and then val combat check? This is when they are both in same location.


No, the "before the encounter" wisdom check is not "check to defeat" so it can't brr done by another character. Who ever encountered the Sneak has to deal with that.

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