Ghlorofaex (sp?) question.

[csouth154]

The scenario rule says attempting to close a location triggers his power. I assume that this applies to attempts to temporarily close, as well? So, when you encounter him, it triggers on any attempt to temp close and then also before the actual encounter with him? Also assume that we can choose whether or not his power triggers before or after attempts to close, since no order is specified?

[Andrew K]

Our group played as temp closing triggered the power, and it would be done after the temp close (they way I see it, something can't trigger on attempting if you haven't attempted yet). Needless to say,we never tried temp closing

[kysmartman]

I'd say that it triggers too simply because you're only going to have to temp close one location in that scenario. If it was a regular Villain that you could face multiple times with multiple temp closes per attack, that would be brutal, but since it isn't, I don't consider it a huge deal to do it that way.

[Andrew K]

Kysmartman, you could have every location still open when he comes in. Him coming in doesn't care about how many locations you close. You could kill enough henchman to bring him out, but fail to close each of their locations.

Attempting to temp close is still attempting to close. The scenario doesn't say anything about attempting to PERMANENTLY close.

[kysmartman]

Okay, let me rephrase that. If you play intelligently, you will only have to temp close one location, maybe two. Why you wouldn't try incredibly hard to succeed at closing those locations is beyond me. I mean my group of 5 made darn sure to close every single location the first time. You don't want to have to try and temp close multiple locations because what happens if you roll poorly on the location and nail the last person every time to where they have no hand to help close his/her location? You'll have to do it all again. That's a great way to kill multiple characters off in one scenario.

[csouth154]

Yeah, you absolutely want to close a loc after every henchman you defeat. That way, there will only be two open locs when Ghlorofaex makes his appearance, and you'll only have to temp close one and defeat him for the win.

[Andrew K]

Or, as was the case for two locations in my group -- if you can't close it without too heavy of a sacrifice, just don't attempt to close it at all. You don't have to burn everything to close them, just don't attempt it and empty that deck until you're ready (or get the villain to run there to close it).

[csouth154]

Does the scenario rule that his power triggers on closing attempts stay in effect once he enters a location deck?? Hawkmoon presented this convincing arguments as to why it should not, but official confirmation would be nice.

Thanks in advance!

[Andrew K]

Hawkmoon definitely makes a good point, and it's the reason my group didn't activate his power for the scenario rule after he was shuffled in. However looking back on it, I'm inclined to say that since the scenario doesn't specifically limit it to before he is shuffled in, you are supposed to take note of what he does. To me, it's one of those "I think it works this way, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it works the other way" moments.

I know it's not official, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents.

[Dave Riley]

Seems impossible to me you're meant to activate his power when he's not active on the board. I get that the Scenario card is phrased that way, but there's been so many statements of "we didn't want you to have to remember things," that I can't imagine you're supposed to nuke yourself when the dragon is hiding in a deck.

Then again, in certain cases the "non-remembering" clause has been overwritten (Mammy Graul), so who knows.

The way we played it, he stopped nuking characters while he was in a deck, but if he was in play (encountered), he used his power as normal. I don't remember the specifics, but that couldn't have saved us more than 1 or 2 electric breaths (and we play +2 locations over recommended).

[Andrew K]

All I know, is I'm starting a solo play with 6 characters tonight, and I don't look forward to this scenario haha

[Russ Taylor]

I played it as Dave Riley. Coming into this late. Because if I can't pull the card, I'm not going to do its text.

[Vic Wertz]

We added a resolution for this to the FAQ.