Can you explain yourself a little better?
How do you make a stealth check while casting a spell with verbal component?
Being invisible indirectly makes you more silent (bonus on stealth), but your spells are not "silent".
"Verbal (V): A verbal component is a spoken incantation. To provide a verbal component, you must be able to speak in a strong voice."
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Can you explain yourself a little better?
How do you make a stealth check while casting a spell with verbal component?
Being invisible indirectly makes you more silent (bonus on stealth), but your spells are not "silent".
"Verbal (V): A verbal component is a spoken incantation. To provide a verbal component, you must be able to speak in a strong voice."
Exactly. The question is how much less I'm "silent".
Of course, the subject is not magically silenced, and certain other conditions can render the recipient detectable (such as swimming in water or stepping in a puddle). If a check is required, a stationary invisible creature has a +40 bonus on its Stealth checks. This bonus is reduced to +20 if the creature is moving.
So basically, while not doing nothing (no moving, no casting) I have +40 to Stealth and Total Concealment.
What is the bonus when I'm casting for example mage armor on myself while being invisible and not moving? I'm still invisible and enemy can't see me. Still of course he can hear me, but it's pretty hard to know the EXACT caster's location just by your ears. From what I understand it's +20 when something like that happens, but I'm not sure.
If you do absolutely nothing you get the +40. Otherwise you get the +20.
Monsters would still have to be able to narrow you down to a square and pick that square to attack. A monster could probably narrow you down to a square if it is within ten-fifteen feet of you, but further away than that I think you should be fine. That's how we handle it at my table anyway.
What is the bonus when I'm casting for example mage armor on myself while being invisible and not moving? I'm still invisible and enemy can't see me. Still of course he can hear me, but it's pretty hard to know the EXACT caster's location just by your ears. From what I understand it's +20 when something like that happens, but I'm not sure.
You're correct. While casting your bonus is reduced to +20, but remember: you will lose "immobile" status after using move action, so your bonus will be +0. However moving without move action is licit. Some monsters with "immobile" status do that. Check rules for perception, because monsters have huge drawback, if you are far away from them (10-20 ft)
Monsters would still have to be able to narrow you down to a square and pick that square to attack. A monster could probably narrow you down to a square if it is within ten-fifteen feet of you, but further away than that I think you should be fine. That's how we handle it at my table anyway.
As long as it can meet or beat the perception DC it can find the square.
Charles invis always gives a +20(minimum). You might get penalties for other reasons, but you won't lose the +20 from invis.
Charles invis always gives a +20(minimum). You might get penalties for other reasons, but you won't lose the +20 from invis.
This is what I love about Paizo. After playing 5 years, you can still learn something new.
A monster will probably know the direction the sound came from, but point out the square is pretty hard to do (if you are not too close, obv)
Also i would give monsters a bonus on their perception since you are speaking out loud (-5 on the DC, probably)
If you are invisible the perception DC is only a 20 to find the caster before penalties for distance kick in. A 20 perception is not really hard to make.
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If you are invisible the perception DC is only a 20 to find the caster before penalties for distance kick in. A 20 perception is not really hard to make.
You mean +1 to DC per 10 ft, right? ( http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/perception )
Does the wizard add his stealth bonus to DC?
From what I understand, while having invi and moving/casting, the lowest DC is 20. After that other mods like distance/light etc. kick in.
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
If you are invisible the perception DC is only a 20 to find the caster before penalties for distance kick in. A 20 perception is not really hard to make.You mean +1 to DC per 10 ft, right? ( http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/perception )
Does the wizard add his stealth bonus to DC?
From what I understand, while having invi and moving/casting, the lowest DC is 20. After that other mods like distance/light etc. kick in.
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Yes I mean that +1 per 10 feet, and you only add your stealth modifier if you are trying to be stealthy aka using the stealth skill.
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Sorry I missed this.
Yes, if a monster beats the DC he knows exactly what square you are in, but he still has a 50% miss chance due to concealment.
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What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Sorry I missed this.
Yes, if a monster beats the DC he knows exactly what square you are in, but he still has a 50% miss chance due to concealment.
First of all: So much thanks to you for these answers!
But I would like to ask about last thing:
"and you only add your stealth modifier if you are trying to be stealthy aka using the stealth skill"
Do I roll d20 while using stealth skill for invisibility purpose?
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Sorry I missed this.
Yes, if a monster beats the DC he knows exactly what square you are in, but he still has a 50% miss chance due to concealment.
First of all: So much thanks to you for these answers!
But I would like to ask about last thing:
"and you only add your stealth modifier if you are trying to be stealthy aka using the stealth skill"
Do I roll d20 while using stealth skill for invisibility purpose?
Yup. All Invisibility does is give you a bonus to your modifier. You still have to roll your stealth check. Roll a 1? You just kicked the leg of that table. Or perhaps your square got momentarily infested by barking spiders ...
Yup. All Invisibility does is give you a bonus to your modifier. You still have to roll your stealth check. Roll a 1? You just kicked the leg of that table. Or perhaps your square got momentarily infested by barking spiders ...
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Sorry I missed this.
Yes, if a monster beats the DC he knows exactly what square you are in, but he still has a 50% miss chance due to concealment.
First of all: So much thanks to you for these answers!
But I would like to ask about last thing:
"and you only add your stealth modifier if you are trying to be stealthy aka using the stealth skill"
Do I roll d20 while using stealth skill for invisibility purpose?
Why? You still rolled a minimum 21 assuming 10 DEX. That is by no means an auto spot for the enemy, and is probably only easy to beat by the party member invested in the skill.
Why? You still rolled a minimum 21 assuming 10 DEX. That is by no means an auto spot for the enemy, and is probably only easy to beat by the party member invested in the skill.Yup. All Invisibility does is give you a bonus to your modifier. You still have to roll your stealth check. Roll a 1? You just kicked the leg of that table. Or perhaps your square got momentarily infested by barking spiders ...
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Sorry I missed this.
Yes, if a monster beats the DC he knows exactly what square you are in, but he still has a 50% miss chance due to concealment.
First of all: So much thanks to you for these answers!
But I would like to ask about last thing:
"and you only add your stealth modifier if you are trying to be stealthy aka using the stealth skill"
Do I roll d20 while using stealth skill for invisibility purpose?
It was a joke? Besides, as noted above a 21 is hardly difficult to hit, particularly if you're past low level.
What happens if monster passed the test? Does the monster know where exactly PC is?
Sorry I missed this.
Yes, if a monster beats the DC he knows exactly what square you are in, but he still has a 50% miss chance due to concealment.
First of all: So much thanks to you for these answers!
But I would like to ask about last thing:
"and you only add your stealth modifier if you are trying to be stealthy aka using the stealth skill"
Do I roll d20 while using stealth skill for inyvisibility purpose?
yes but you can not use stealth while casting unless thell has a casting
time of swift or faster.
yes but you can not use stealth while casting unless thell has a casting
time of swift or faster.How do you figure?
Stealth is not an action, it doesn't require an action... If you are not observed, you can in general use stealth. Even if you're doing something, like talking or casting a spell, which might make it pretty easy for people to find you.
You are correct about the lack of an action. I read the entry wrong.