Death Attack vs. Regeneration


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Volkard Abendroth wrote:
seebs wrote:

No, CdG isn't a death attack.

I do find the tarrasque argument persuasive; clearly at least some of the writers thought that death attacks Just Kill You.

Do you have a RAW definition for Death Attacks?

A Coup-de-grace is save or die. Why would you not consider it a death attack.

Heh, I remember that thread.


Volkard Abendroth wrote:
seebs wrote:

No, CdG isn't a death attack.

I do find the tarrasque argument persuasive; clearly at least some of the writers thought that death attacks Just Kill You.

Do you have a RAW definition for Death Attacks?

A Coup-de-grace is save or die. Why would you not consider it a death attack.

Because death attacks specifically prevent raise dead from working on you where CdG does not. Death attacks are called out specifically for that reason.


Ryan Freire wrote:
Volkard Abendroth wrote:
seebs wrote:

No, CdG isn't a death attack.

I do find the tarrasque argument persuasive; clearly at least some of the writers thought that death attacks Just Kill You.

Do you have a RAW definition for Death Attacks?

A Coup-de-grace is save or die. Why would you not consider it a death attack.

Because death attacks specifically prevent raise dead from working on you where CdG does not. Death attacks are called out specifically for that reason.

Where are they specifically called out?

Do you have a RAW definition, or are you just assuming everyone will use your personal definition.

blahpers wrote:
Heh, I remember that thread.

So do I :-)


Establishing the [Death] tag

The bottom Paragraph of raise dead wrote:
A creature who has been turned into an undead creature or killed by a death effect can’t be raised by this spell. Constructs, elementals, outsiders, and undead creatures can’t be raised. The spell cannot bring back a creature that has died of old age.

If it says "this is a death effect" or has the death tag its a death effect.

Death effects only real common mechanics are to establish if raise dead works on you if it kills you, or if death ward protects you from it.

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Volkard Abendroth wrote:
Do you have a RAW definition, or are you just assuming everyone will use your personal definition.
Death Attacks wrote:

In most cases, a death attack allows the victim a Fortitude save to avoid the effect, but if the save fails, the creature takes a large amount of damage, which might cause it to die instantly.

Raise dead doesn't work on someone killed by a death attack or effect.
Death attacks slay instantly. A victim cannot be made stable and thereby kept alive.
In case it matters, a dead character, no matter how he died, has hit points equal to or less than his negative Constitution score.
The spell death ward protects against these attacks.

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Thread closed, as it's a tautology: a death effect is defined as anything that's identified as a death effect.

Source.

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