PFS - Paladin gear tips


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Hey, I was wondering if you can give me tips on what I should pick up next on my Level 7 Paladin. Current Gear I have is:

Full Plate +1
Keen Falchion +1
Pearl of Power (1st)
Boots of Striding and Springing.
Cloak of Resistance +1
Belt of Strength +2
Headband of Charisma +2
Potion of Fly

Assorted other items 150 gold or less in Value (such as scroll of invis).

Right now some of my top Choices are Amulet of Natural Armor (2k) and upgrading my Armor to +2 (3k). Any other suggestions?

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I'd take a Ring of Protection +1 before an Amulet of Natural Armor (although keep in mind it doesn't stack with the AC bonus from smiting). How much gold do you have?

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Upgrade the cloak of resistance. Other useful stuff includes:

Eyes of the eagle, cracked ioun stone for initiative, ring of protection over the amulet (adds to touch AC), potions of remove blindness, air bubble, daylight, gaseous form, scrolls of death ward, freedom of movement, first aid gloves, circlet of persuasion, jingasa of the fortunate soldier.

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I would make dusty rose prism ioun stone, amulet of natural armor +1, ring of protection +1, and jingasa of the fortunate soldier all priorities.

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I actually skipped cloak of resistance with my paladin, as he has very high charisma. Gave me the option of a utility cloak, which is quite rare in Pathfinder where EVERYONE just buys cloaks of resistance and is honestly quite boring. I ended up with a cape of the mountebank.

Also, look at the Paladin specific bracers:

bracers of the avenging knight - attack heavy paladin (UE)
silver smite bracelet - attack heavy paladin (APG)
bracers of the merciful knight - support paladin (UE)


RainyDayNinja wrote:
How much gold do you have?

about 7k

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Carlos Robledo wrote:

I actually skipped cloak of resistance with my paladin, as he has very high charisma. Gave me the option of a utility cloak, which is quite rare in Pathfinder where EVERYONE just buys cloaks of resistance and is honestly quite boring. I ended up with a cape of the mountebank.

Also, look at the Paladin specific bracers:

bracers of the avenging knight - attack heavy paladin (UE)
silver smite bracelet - attack heavy paladin (APG)
bracers of the merciful knight - support paladin (UE)

My Protection-Domain Cleric did the same thing. The domain gives a resistence bonus to saves, so it wont stack with the Cloak. I think I went with the same item.

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What does the rest of your build look like? I'm assuming your AC could use shoring up since you don't have a shield, so I'd recommend:

Ring of Protection +1 (2000)
Amulet of Natural Armor +1 (2000)
Pearl of Power, 1st level (probably for grace. I'd be casting that a few times a day) (1000)
Cracked Dusty Rose Prism ioun stone (+1 initiative) (500)

For a total of 5500 gp for +2 AC, +1 initiative, and another 1st level spell.

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Honestly I have not realy seen a level ten plus Paladin without the silver smite bracelet. Though that is unlikely of immediate help to you. I would suggest perhaps looking at some of the cheaper alchemical items, obviously you do not need anti-toxin but vermin repellent and wismuth salix are helpful. Also all the suggestions for defensive items are good.


Carlos Robledo wrote:


bracers of the avenging knight - attack heavy paladin (UE)
silver smite bracelet - attack heavy paladin (APG)

Other than the price, what is the difference with these 2?

Also wouldn't the merciful Knight ones be better for paladin with oath of wrath?

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Before you buy a ring of protection +1, make sure to check out Inner Sea Gods (if you have it) because there are a few rings that function like a ring of protection in addition to some extra stuff.

Bracers of the Avenging Knight might be an item to consider purchasing at some point.. (11,500 gp) lets your smite act as if you were four levels higher when determining damage.

Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier-- +1 luck bonus to AC and once a day you can negate one critical hit or sneak attack if I recall correctly and the target only hits you with regular weapon damage.. It costs 5,000 gp (or 5,500-- I can't remember off the top of my head)

Boots of the Cat-- Take minimum falling damage (so at max, you could take 20 damage if you fell 200 feet) and they can be yours for 1,000 gp

There is some ioun stone that gives you a +1 insight bonus to AC though I forget what it is called.. I think it costs 5000 gp..

There is another ioun stone that can provide you a +1 competence bonus to saves and it's only 4,000 gp.. pale green cracked ioun stone..

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Slacker2010 wrote:
Carlos Robledo wrote:


bracers of the avenging knight - attack heavy paladin (UE)
silver smite bracelet - attack heavy paladin (APG)

Other than the price, what is the difference with these 2?

Also wouldn't the merciful Knight ones be better for paladin with oath of wrath?

I think the silver smite bracelet gives you more uses of smite evil

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Slacker2010 wrote:
RainyDayNinja wrote:
How much gold do you have?
about 7k

It might be a good thing to just save up for a few scenarios and then buy things.

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A Ring of Shielding is costly, but since you are using a two-handed weapon, 8,500 gp for a +2 shield bonus is nice to have.

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There's a cracked ioun stone Vibrant Purple Prism for 2000 gp that allows you to cast a single level of spell as a ring of spell storing. Get a first level wand of an important spell such as Shield. Four extra AC for a minute, but it takes a standard action to activate.

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DesolateHarmony wrote:
There's a cracked ioun stone Vibrant Purple Prism for 2000 gp that allows you to cast a single level of spell as a ring of spell storing. Get a first level wand of an important spell such as Shield. Four extra AC for a minute, but it takes a standard action to activate.

That's -really- nice.. never heard of that one before.

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Silhren Rilbahn wrote:
Slacker2010 wrote:
Carlos Robledo wrote:


bracers of the avenging knight - attack heavy paladin (UE)
silver smite bracelet - attack heavy paladin (APG)

Other than the price, what is the difference with these 2?

Also wouldn't the merciful Knight ones be better for paladin with oath of wrath?

I think the silver smite bracelet gives you more uses of smite evil

Bracers of the Merciful Knight

Bracers of the Avenging Knight

Silver Smite Bracelet

Note that the Bracers of the Avenging Knight makes your smite damage 4 higher, but the Silver Smite Bracelet makes your Smite Evil class feature work as if four levels higher. Same amount of damage, but one more smite a day for most archetypes.

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DesolateHarmony wrote:
Silhren Rilbahn wrote:
Slacker2010 wrote:
Carlos Robledo wrote:


bracers of the avenging knight - attack heavy paladin (UE)
silver smite bracelet - attack heavy paladin (APG)

Other than the price, what is the difference with these 2?

Also wouldn't the merciful Knight ones be better for paladin with oath of wrath?

I think the silver smite bracelet gives you more uses of smite evil

Bracers of the Merciful Knight

Bracers of the Avenging Knight

Silver Smite Bracelet

Note that the Bracers of the Avenging Knight makes your smite damage 4 higher, but the Silver Smite Bracelet makes your Smite Evil class feature work as if four levels higher. Same amount of damage, but one more smite a day for most archetypes.

It has been so long since I looked at those two items.. now you are making me consider getting the Merciful Bracers instead.. I haven't fully read the description before. Thanks for the link!

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You could get a bag of holding and a handful of mundane/alchemical items you might need.

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DesolateHarmony wrote:
There's a cracked ioun stone Vibrant Purple Prism for 2000 gp that allows you to cast a single level of spell as a ring of spell storing. Get a first level wand of an important spell such as Shield. Four extra AC for a minute, but it takes a standard action to activate.

FYI, you can't use a wand to put a spell into a minor ring of spell storing or any item which refers to its rules (which includes the cracked vibrant purple prism ioun stone).

Minor Ring of Spell Storing wrote:
A spellcaster can cast any spells into the ring, so long as the total spell levels do not add up to more than three. Metamagic versions of spells take up storage space equal to their spell level modified by the metamagic feat. A spellcaster can use a scroll to put a spell into the minor ring of spell storing.

Two methods are presented for putting a spell into the ring: casting it, or using a scroll. Using a wand is not one of those two options.

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Personally, I am a fan of the rallying armor enhancement. It extends your aura of courage from 10 to 30 feet and increases the bonus to +6 (for people without aura of coursge the enhancement pretty much acts like the standard ability).

As a flat cost enhancement it also won't impact the cost to upgrade the rest of your armor.

Also, fear sucks.

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+1 adaptive composite longbow, with adamantine, cold iron, and silver arrows.

I'd probably also pick up a +1 one-handed weapon and a +1 shield.


Vrog Skyreaver wrote:

+1 adaptive composite longbow, with adamantine, cold iron, and silver arrows.

I'd probably also pick up a +1 one-handed weapon and a +1 shield.

I have a Composite Longbow (str +3) and arrows. Don't think 8k is worth a backup weapon. Same with the one hander and shield, I have MW golf bag of weapons, not spending money enchanting them. Thats a very Situational use of money. I keep Scrolls and Potions for corner cases. Divine Bond will make any thing I pick up magical. Amulet of NA +1 (2k) and upgrading my armor to a +2 (3k) are the front runners still. Nothing else seems to be worth the money, so going to save for those bracers of the merciful Knight.

Since I smite a lot, the Ring of Protection doesn't feel worth it. Im not big into spending a lot into my AC since its not that good. I just have to keep it at a point that 2nd Irritative attacks don't auto hit me. I know the primary attacks are going to land. I have LoH to deal with that.

I was really considering getting a spring loaded wrist sheath with a scroll of Breath of Life inside to hand out to anyone that can cast it in my party with the instructions they can use it on me if I go down.

EDIT: IMPORTANT QUESTION - How do Paladins deal with invis? Im looking now and im not seeing a very effective way to do this.

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+1 adaptive is only 3,000 I believe - adaptive is a flat +1,000gp add-on. Two of my Paladin characters use this option (and for one of them it's also how he deals with incorporeal things with ghost-salt-blanch arrows).

As for Invis - potions of see invisibility and invisibility purge (which I think works as an oil but not as a potion) are the best I can come up with off the top of my head.

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Potion of see invisibility does not exist (range: personal).

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Mike Bramnik wrote:
As for Invis - potions of see invisibility and invisibility purge (which I think works as an oil but not as a potion) are the best I can come up with off the top of my head.

Both spells are "personal" range, so they can't be made into potions or oils.

Of course you could UMD a scroll of either. Also, there's an AP volume with an item called a stunstone that does a sound burst and faerie fire in a 10 foot radius burst.

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By taking Unsanctioned Knowledge as a feat and adding See Invisibilty to your spell list?

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RainyDayNinja wrote:
Mike Bramnik wrote:
As for Invis - potions of see invisibility and invisibility purge (which I think works as an oil but not as a potion) are the best I can come up with off the top of my head.

Both spells are "personal" range, so they can't be made into potions or oils.

Of course you could UMD a scroll of either. Also, there's an AP volume with an item called a stunstone that does a sound burst and faerie fire in a 10 foot radius burst.

There's also the Hand of Glory, which allows casting See Invisibility once per day, and there are glasses in the Pathfinder Society Primer that allow you to have Darkvision or See Invisibility for a limited amount of time (I think 5 minutes). I've seriously considered buy those glasses for my human ninja, because it solves two problems in one. I can't remember the actual name of the glasses at the moment.

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Wand of bless weapon.

Bless the entire party to hell.

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I love those bracers of the merciful knight. Of course I play one of the few Sword/ Shield Paladins I know. Most go for the big assed weapon of death option

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Lenses of Situational Sight. One of my PCs has them.

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There's also a (rather expensive) chest slot item that lets you see Invisible and/or Ethereal creatures as per see invisiblity as long as you wear it, called the Spectral Shroud. It also lets you turn incorporeal for 10 rounds once per day.

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kinevon wrote:
Lenses of Situational Sight. One of my PCs has them.

That's the one. 10 minutes each of Detect Magic, Darkvision, and See Invisibility in 1-minute increments. It's an expendable item, so once you've used up one of the abilities, that ability is gone, but still, when you add up what you'd spend on potions of Darkvision at 300 each and that there's not other cheap way to see invisible creatures reliably, it's a good bargain.

I really appreciate that in the Pathfinder Society Primer, they seem to have been paying attention when they created the magic items. An expendable way to see invisible creatures. With the First Aid Gloves, an expendable way to bring party healing (and especially Breath of Life that anyone can use, and which is not subject to table variation like a scroll in a wrist sheath is.

Probably neither of these items are next on this Paladin's list, but they are good to know about regardless.

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Jeff Merola wrote:
There's also a (rather expensive) chest slot item that lets you see Invisible and/or Ethereal creatures as per see invisiblity as long as you wear it, called the Spectral Shroud. It also lets you turn incorporeal for 10 rounds once per day.

We have a local PC who has this - my understanding is that he's already lost count of how many times it's saved his life / the party's life because of the constant see invisibility.

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Mike Bramnik wrote:
Jeff Merola wrote:
There's also a (rather expensive) chest slot item that lets you see Invisible and/or Ethereal creatures as per see invisiblity as long as you wear it, called the Spectral Shroud. It also lets you turn incorporeal for 10 rounds once per day.
We have a local PC who has this - my understanding is that he's already lost count of how many times it's saved his life / the party's life because of the constant see invisibility.

Oh, yes, the always on bit is why my Aldori Swordlord has it, instead of just using the much cheaper Elixirs of Spirit Sight.

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Michael Eshleman wrote:

Personally, I am a fan of the rallying armor enhancement. It extends your aura of courage from 10 to 30 feet and increases the bonus to +6 (for people without aura of coursge the enhancement pretty much acts like the standard ability).

As a flat cost enhancement it also won't impact the cost to upgrade the rest of your armor.

Also, fear sucks.

I would also like to add that there are some deadly effects with the fear descriptor that people forget to associate with fear, such as Phantasmal Killer/Weird, which I have seen enemies in PFS use.


RainyDayNinja wrote:
Also, there's an AP volume with an item called a stunstone that does a sound burst and faerie fire in a 10 foot radius burst.

Ohhh nice, RDN you are awesome. Thanks.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Alot of good info about Elixirs of Spirit Sight, Phantasmal Killer/Weird, Lenses of Situational Sight, and the Hand of Glory.

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I've considered the hand of glory because it also grants use of a third ring, but it unfortunately competes with amulets of natural armor.

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Slacker2010 wrote:
RainyDayNinja wrote:
Also, there's an AP volume with an item called a stunstone that does a sound burst and faerie fire in a 10 foot radius burst.

Ohhh nice, RDN you are awesome. Thanks.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Alot of good info about Elixirs of Spirit Sight, Phantasmal Killer/Weird, Lenses of Situational Sight, and the Hand of Glory.

Best part is that the stunstone and the elixir of spirit sight are in the same book.

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