Where is This Item?

[SAMAS]

In my group, I find that one of my early characters (my first one, actually) is in need of an overhaul. Not too surprising, as I've learned a lot more about both making characters and where I wanted that character (a Halfling Sorceress/Dragon Disciple) to go.

I could just ask the DM to let me try it, but I remember there being an item in a book that could be used to change or alter a character's class. I remember the page it was on having a picture of Seoni as a warrior. I thought it was in the Game Masters' Guide, but I looked through that and couldn't find it.

So what book was it in?

[Caedwyr]

I think you are referring to a memory bottle from 3.5. It might be easier to just ask your GM if you can do a rebuild of the character for the same reason you've given here.

[SAMAS]

I am, but I kinda want to have an official backup, as it were, to justify it in case he doesn't feel right letting me arbitrarily do it.

Plus, that was a pretty cool picture and I want to see it again.

[LazarX]

SAMAS wrote:

I am, but I kinda want to have an official backup, as it were, to justify it in case he doesn't feel right letting me arbitrarily do it.

Plus, that was a pretty cool picture and I want to see it again.

He's perfectly justified in denying your "official source" if he feels it doesn't fit in the campaign. Despite what some might think, RAW is not a club to beat your DM into submisssion.

What the earlier poster was referring to is the rebuilding rules in Ultimate Campaign.

[Claxon]

There is an item, but I can't remember the name of it.

It is essentially a DM mcguffin though, as it is considered an artifact if I recall correctly.

So there really isn't a way without your DM deciding arbitrarily to let you do it.

[Claxon]

Hourglas of Transfiguration, from Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts and Legends.

For what it's worth it's listed under METAGAME ARTIFACTS on d20pfsrd

[SAMAS]

Claxon wrote:

Hourglas of Transfiguration, from Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Artifacts and Legends.

For what it's worth it's listed under METAGAME ARTIFACTS on d20pfsrd

Alright, thanks a lot.

Storywise, I'm not sure if that's what I want. I don't like thinking alternate selves as just being one and the same as the original but with a few differences. Maybe I should just ask to do it outright, or maybe discuss a lesser version if he wants an in-story basis.

[Caedwyr]

You could, with your GM's okay, make it an interesting bit of a training montage. Your character could realize that while they have achieved a certain level of power through their adventures, they are capable of much more. The character could then set out on a course of intensive training (either roleplayed, or done as a training montage) to refine and reinvent themselves to bring out their true potential. This may leave the character weaker in areas they were once strong, but a character having lost some capabilities they once had due to PLOT or CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is not a new thing in fantasy storytelling.