Is Humble EVE worth trying?


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I've been thinking of trying another online game to get my feet wet before PFO gets going. I note that today's 24 hour only humble bundle is an EVE online trial pack that includes 30 days of game time for as little as $4.00

Anybody have any thoughts about whether a month of EVE would be remotely useful to me in prepping for PFO?

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:

I've been thinking of trying another online game to get my feet wet before PFO gets going. I note that today's 24 hour only humble bundle is an EVE online trial pack that includes 30 days of game time for as little as $4.00

Anybody have any thoughts about whether a month of EVE would be remotely useful to me in prepping for PFO?

I can give you a buddy invite for 21 days

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Bluddwolf wrote:
Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:

I've been thinking of trying another online game to get my feet wet before PFO gets going. I note that today's 24 hour only humble bundle is an EVE online trial pack that includes 30 days of game time for as little as $4.00

Anybody have any thoughts about whether a month of EVE would be remotely useful to me in prepping for PFO?

I can give you a buddy invite for 21 days

Much appreciated, but the real question is will it do me any good to play in getting ready for PFO. I'm not afraid to spend $4.00 for the month and the extra equipment they're offering.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:

I've been thinking of trying another online game to get my feet wet before PFO gets going. I note that today's 24 hour only humble bundle is an EVE online trial pack that includes 30 days of game time for as little as $4.00

Anybody have any thoughts about whether a month of EVE would be remotely useful to me in prepping for PFO?

Yeah I think it would be good. I've tried it off and on for a few months at a time for the last several years. It has a lot of things that bug me too much to play it, but it is a good example for some of the concepts (or potential pitfalls) of PFO. I've been revisiting my memories of EVE constantly for the last week thinking about EE :)

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It's a beautiful game, but one needs to be prepared for two things:

1) a steep learning curve, beginning with which skills to train in what order
2) a community often perceived as toxic; Ryan's made it sound as if the devs established anarchy, and let the players take it from there. Essentially anything goes once one leaves the safe areas, which are pretty good-sized.

It does use a variant of PFO's experience system. You'll always, even when logged off, have something training.

Here, you'll always be gathering experience points, which you'll spend while in-game.

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T7V Jazzlvraz wrote:

It's a beautiful game, but one needs to be prepared for two things:

1) a steep learning curve, beginning with which skills to train in what order
2) a community often perceived as toxic; Ryan's made it sound as if the devs established anarchy, and let the players take it from there. Essentially anything goes once one leaves the safe areas, which are pretty good-sized.

It does use a variant of PFO's experience system. You'll always, even when logged off, have something training.

Here, you'll always be gathering experience points, which you'll spend while in-game.

I'm not sure I'd ever leave the safe zone. My goal would be to get a basic understanding of how online gaming works. Equipping, fighting, moving, not falling on my ass consonantly.....

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
My goal would be to get a basic understanding of how online gaming works. Equipping, fighting, moving, not falling on my ass consonantly.....

It might be more relevant - for such basic MMO experience - to try one of the other Fantasy games, most of which have free to play options, such as EverQuest 2, Lord of the Rings Online, or even World of Warcraft. In fact, it might be useful to play around a bit in several just to get a feel for what has become standard across the industry.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
Bluddwolf wrote:
Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:

I've been thinking of trying another online game to get my feet wet before PFO gets going. I note that today's 24 hour only humble bundle is an EVE online trial pack that includes 30 days of game time for as little as $4.00

Anybody have any thoughts about whether a month of EVE would be remotely useful to me in prepping for PFO?

I can give you a buddy invite for 21 days
Much appreciated, but the real question is will it do me any good to play in getting ready for PFO. I'm not afraid to spend $4.00 for the month and the extra equipment they're offering.

You would be better off with the 21 day free trial and screw the extra equipment, you'll lose it anyway if you jump right into PvP. Yes, I do recommend you jump right into PvP.

Send me a PM with your email and I'll send you a buddy key. It costs neither of us a thing.

I'll set you up in a decent PvP starter ship, maybe even a few.

You are not trying to learn what PvP in PFO will be like in Eve, you'll be trying to learn what PvP will be like in an open world PvP game. Theme parks MMOs won't do that.

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I agree if you're just dabbing your toe into the waters to get a feel for online gaming, that a theme park like WoW is probably going to be a better starting point.

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Bluddwolf wrote:
You are not trying to learn what PvP in PFO will be like in Eve, you'll be trying to learn what PvP will be like in an open world PvP game. Theme parks MMOs won't do that.

I completely agree with Bluddwolf's advice if you're interested in learning about PvP.

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Many of the economic concepts transfer over pretty well, Also the leveling/skill up system. I would at the very least check it out for those reasons alone.

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I've never played Eve, so I'm only going by what I have read about it. But a lot of people say that Eve is like a game based on a spreadsheet and plays like one. If that is true, there will be some major differences.

From the videos and screenshots, combat and such will be similar to other Themepark games.


Barely tried it as i couldnt get into the whole spaceflight/no real avatar (tho im a sci-fi fan in general). What i liked is the feeling of vast openess from the get-go, that you can mount into anything if you want to. I havent been able to go back to a thempark mmo since ever because of how tucked in and clostrophobic it feels. The atmosphere was also very good. If they had the option for you to be able to dock at planets and explore i would probably play more of it.

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Do not forget that Eve's learning curve is a bit more unforgiving then in other MMO's. Like so.

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The PvP part of EVE isn't so spreadsheety. That's a word now. And yes the broad concepts from EVE will help you in any other open world pvp too. My advice is:

Do ALL the tutorial missions.
Join a corp
Update your clone
Make friends, talk about the game a lot
Don't get attached to your ships
Update your clone
Shoot everything red
Then update your clone

Bluddwolf wants to buddy you because if you pay for the game after his invite he gets free game time, but he didn't tell you that part the scoundrel.

I play in the area around Hek if you're in the neighborhood.

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Empyrean Proxima Sin wrote:

The PvP part of EVE isn't so spreadsheety. That's a word now. And yes the broad concepts from EVE will help you in any other open world pvp too. My advice is:

Do ALL the tutorial missions.
Join a corp
Update your clone
Make friends, talk about the game a lot
Don't get attached to your ships
Update your clone
Shoot everything red
Then update your clone

Bluddwolf wants to buddy you because if you pay for the game after his invite he gets free game time, but he didn't tell you that part the scoundrel.

I play in the area around Hek if you're in the neighborhood.

I offered to put him in ships, and would even set him up with a corp. I intended to take him into low sec, so "shoot everything red" does not apply. Shoot everything your FC says to shoot is the rule.

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Empyrean Proxima Sin wrote:


Bluddwolf wants to buddy you because if you pay for the game after his invite he gets free game time, but he didn't tell you that part the scoundrel.

Noted, and hardly a surprise, though I was inclined to look at it as karma-building for drawing me into his PFO Settlement race. I can almost guarantee that PFO will prove to be as much gaming as I can handle, so EVE is unlikely (practically infinitely unlikely) to turn into a paid hobby

Empyrean Proxima Sin wrote:
I play in the area around Hek if you're in the neighborhood.

Also noted, though my main goal is to have a notion of how to do stuff, rather than actually doing stuff....

Bluddwolf wrote:
I offered to put him in ships, and would even set him up with a corp. I intended to take him into low sec, so "shoot everything red" does not apply. Shoot everything your FC says to shoot is the rule.

And I appreciate the assistance. I'm one of those 8-5-plus-commute-5-days-a-week types (and with a disabled wife at home) so it may take me several days to get anywhere with it, but I'm looking forward to bloodying my keyboard.

Goblin Squad Member

I just got back into eve after 5 years... some nice changes and stuff. Now I just need a corps to call home.

I can see the benefit of throwing a new player right into a lowsec/null pvp situation, but that can be a bit overwhelming. At least in my opinion.

Hope you enjoy it!

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Kommie, you might want to send a PM to Bluddwolf; he's been an advocate of EVE since I first joined these boards, and he sounds as if he enjoys helping folks find their way.

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TheRedKommie wrote:
Hope you enjoy it!

so far it's mostly given me stiff muscles and a lack of sleep, but I'm enjoying it. I've avoided all pvp for 4 hours of playing, mostly by taking an excessive amount of time trying to figure out how anything happens.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
TheRedKommie wrote:
Hope you enjoy it!
so far it's mostly given me stiff muscles and a lack of sleep, but I'm enjoying it. I've avoided all pvp for 4 hours of playing, mostly by taking an excessive amount of time trying to figure out how anything happens.

Lol, yeah, it is a tough game to get into, but I always love reading about the stuff that people do. Like someone joining a corp for a year only to betray them to his old corp. The mass suicide attack on a trade center, the cry to arms when one of the bigger corp titans is in trouble. It is a game that the playerss can effect and the devs let them.

It is one of the reasons why when someone asks me to explain pfo, I go eve online but fantasy. I know that isn't the best description for it, but the freedom and the mark the players can leave are close.

And jazz, I might hit up bluddwulf. I know how to play the game, just... it is not a game that you can.be in and be a top star right away. Still planning what skills I need/want for a raven, but a friend and zome guys that were watching his stream got together for a few hours and did level fours... I was so outclassed I just looted the whole time.

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Caldeathe Baequiannia wrote:
TheRedKommie wrote:
Hope you enjoy it!
so far it's mostly given me stiff muscles and a lack of sleep, but I'm enjoying it. I've avoided all pvp for 4 hours of playing, mostly by taking an excessive amount of time trying to figure out how anything happens.

Where in the universe are you playing?


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Empyrean Proxima Sin wrote:

The PvP part of EVE isn't so spreadsheety. That's a word now. And yes the broad concepts from EVE will help you in any other open world pvp too. My advice is:

Do ALL the tutorial missions.
Join a corp
Update your clone
Make friends, talk about the game a lot
Don't get attached to your ships
Update your clone
Shoot everything red
Then update your clone

Bluddwolf wants to buddy you because if you pay for the game after his invite he gets free game time, but he didn't tell you that part the scoundrel.

I play in the area around Hek if you're in the neighborhood.

You forgot to mention "don't get attached to your ship", "don't get attached to your ship", "really-really don't get attached to your ship" ;)

In EVE it cannot be overstated not to get attached to your ships...

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...or your clone, or your implants, or your bank account, or... :-)


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...your smile?

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I can help you along your way, that is for sure. Send me an eve mail in-game and I'll add you to my watch list. I'll send you enough isk to buy 10 fully fitted frigates. Then we can go out and get you killed 8 times...... Trust me, you will have a blast!

I'll stay with you until you get your first couple of kills, and you meet the boys in my corp. if you're lucky you'll get to kill some Russians early on. Russians are a bulk of the pirate community. But don't think for a moment you are a pirate Hunter. You won't be, you'll be a pirate yourself.

If you follow me, and my mates (and they are much better than me), we will make you a "wolf" among "wolves" and you'll be lucky to come across any "sheep". They stay out of low sec.

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I'm glad you added that last, Bluddwolf. The question that was forming in my mind was "are there still sheep?"

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In low-sec, very-very stupid or unlucky sheeps. :p

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T7V Jazzlvraz wrote:
I'm glad you added that last, Bluddwolf. The question that was forming in my mind was "are there still sheep?"

Yeah there are still sheep, but they are a different breed. They are faction warfare frigates and cruisers. But once in a while you can catch a freighter or some fool in a mining barge.

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Lol Bludd, after I was down with my health due to overwork, I've stopped doing plexes and spent more than a year as a "fool in a mining barge" (you know these Hulks). Well, participation in one major military op for our coalition and two gatecamps were exceptions.
Now I'm not in tune with my CEO in EVE and rarely visit New Eden, but I still have this same Hulk as two years ago.
Lowsec mining is complex thing. And not all the PvPers know how to catch our Hulks. And our PvPers have many ideas how to make fun out of these attempts. I'm not a top-notch pro, but patience, observation, knowledge of the game and friends nearby are good things to have for low-sec miners.
Sorry, no more blue intel on this channel ;)

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Marlagram wrote:

Lol Bludd, after I was down with my health due to overwork, I've stopped doing plexes and spent more than a year as a "fool in a mining barge" (you know these Hulks). Well, participation in one major military op for our coalition and two gatecamps were exceptions.

Now I'm not in tune with my CEO in EVE and rarely visit New Eden, but I still have this same Hulk as two years ago.
Lowsec mining is complex thing. And not all the PvPers know how to catch our Hulks. And our PvPers have many ideas how to make fun out of these attempts. I'm not a top-notch pro, but patience, observation, knowledge of the game and friends nearby are good things to have for low-sec miners.
Sorry, no more blue intel on this channel ;)

I wasn't talking about a mining OP, I was talking about a solo mining barge. Sure the really experienced ones can get away from time to time.

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