Things that cost 1,000,000 gp


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I'm trying to get a sense of the scale of economics in Pathfinder. What are some things that cost a cool million gp?


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10 Alchemical Dragons, 20 Airships/Zeppelins, 100 galleys, or 40 warships.

So maybe decent chunk of a large nations military budget.

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Five Mirrors of Life Trapping.

478 Farms (though not the people to run them).

A skilled laborer earns probably around 2 GP per day. So, 500,000 days of that income, or 1,369 years of daily income for such a laborer.

Working 3 seasons a year, a farmer with their own farm can manage 2,386.8 GP as a yearly income, before expenses. This is more than 418 years of pre-expense and task income for such a person.


Almost two and a half palaces (taking one build point to be worth four thousand gold).


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100,000 pp.
2,000 lbs of mithral.
3,334 lbs of Adamantine.
100,000,000 Guinea pigs.


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7 Iron Golems
52 Wood Golems
2 Adamantine Golems
4 Mithral Golems
4 Noqual Golems
10 Stone Golems

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My playing group has evaluated that the purchasing power of 1 GP is approximately 50 € or $. It is not a rate of exchange based on the raw value of the money, but an evaluation based on its purchase power.
It work fairly well.


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In 3.x you could get a cloak of resistance +10 for 1 mil...


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100,000,000 pounds of wheat
_50,000,000 pounds of flour, or as many chickens
_10,000,000 pounds of iron
__2,000,000 pounds of tobacco or copper
__1,000,000 pounds of cinnamon, or as many goats
____500,000 pounds of ginger or pepper, or as many sheep
____333,333 pigs
____250,000 square yards of linen
____200,000 pounds of salt or silver
____100,000 square yards of silk, or as many cows
_____66,666 pounds of saffron or cloves, or as many oxen
_____20,000 pounds of gold
______2,000 pounds of platinum

One ton of solid platinum is worth one million gold. Time to make a trip to the elemental plane of earth fellas! :D

Also, a lowly 1st-level commoner/farmer with 100,000 cows (from his liege lord perhaps) has the capability to deal 200,000d6+900,000 damage (1,600,000 damage on average) to whatever might be threatening his homestead simply by setting off a firecracker. Who needs an army? Don't. Mess. With. The. Herd.


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I would evaluate it based on something more simple like average income. If the worker makes 1 gp a today and we say the median income of an individual today (in the u.s. without looking it up) is about $10 an hour thus about 80 a day then its about 80 to 100x a gp.

I didn't account for different hours worked because its assumed that yes they work different hours, but a "medieval" worker would be paid the same regardless of workning 12 hour days. No unions afaik.

Thus 1 mil gp = $80,000,000


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Saw a figure that said a knights kit(Horse, armor, weaponry) would be the equivalent of £550-800k.


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Almost five cathedrals or castles.

Forty wishes.

Fortunately, Pathfinder isn't supposed to be an accurate economics simulator.


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Daenar wrote:
Saw a figure that said a knights kit(Horse, armor, weaponry) would be the equivalent of £550-800k.

That's completely dependant on the era.

Is this figure a modern equivalent due to inflation?

The Exchange

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RJGrady wrote:
What are some things that cost a cool million gp?

A ten-ton slab of solid gold.


+10 anything that has a regular bonus squared x 1000 and an enhancement limit below 10.

+10 armor or bracers of armor
+10 cloak of resistance
+10 to a single stat item
+100 to a skill
SR 100

Scarab Sages

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True resurrection on 40 people.
9 books that permenantly increase an ability score by 4 (manual of x +4)
10 lords banners of the crusades (a portable, permanent hallow spell)
40 of any combinations of pearls of power, pages of spell knowledge, and/or boro beads for level 5 spells.

Paying an NPC level 20 wizard/sorcerer/cleric/oracle to cast wish/miracle 37 times. (Including material cost)(though probably only Abdar would agree to grant miracles for other people paying money.)

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A days' worth of trail rations for 2,000,000 starving orphans.

Although buying them 100,000 cattle is probably going to do them more good.


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250 BP for your kingdom treasury
50,000 capital goods or labor
33,333 capital influence
10,000 capital magic


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Lincoln Hills wrote:

A days' worth of trail rations for 2,000,000 starving orphans.

Although buying them 100,000 cattle is probably going to do them more good.

Do the rations cost more or less if the orphans aren't starving?


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BigDTBone wrote:
Lincoln Hills wrote:

A days' worth of trail rations for 2,000,000 starving orphans.

Although buying them 100,000 cattle is probably going to do them more good.

Do the rations cost more or less if the orphans aren't starving?

More, obviously.

Thanks for the help, guys. I'm not taking Pathfinder as a unified economic system. I am just trying to gauge how much things cost at the very high end. The five cathedrals thing is particularly helpful.


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200 castings of Raise Dead. There are some upsides to this world.

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thunderbeard wrote:
200 castings of Raise Dead. There are some upsides to this world.

You know, that might make a fun thread for Off-Topic: "Which 200 real life people would you raise from the dead, assuming you had enough diamonds?"

On the other hand I can see that one getting real ugly, real soon. ;)


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Not counting the masterwork weapon, Five magical weapons with a total of +10 enhancement equivalents.

So, Would you like a castle, or that +3 holy vorpal sword? They cost the same.


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KestrelZ wrote:

Not counting the masterwork weapon, Five magical weapons with a total of +10 enhancement equivalents.

So, Would you like a castle, or that +3 holy vorpal sword? They cost the same.

A fabulous place to live, or a major weapon?

No wonder people call them murderhobos.

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Captain Wacky wrote:
Daenar wrote:
Saw a figure that said a knights kit(Horse, armor, weaponry) would be the equivalent of £550-800k.

That's completely dependant on the era.

Is this figure a modern equivalent due to inflation?

It was a major expense during our historical periods of knighthood, whether European or Asian. Keep in mind that a masterwork weapon alone would represent weeks of dedicated work for a master craftsman who has to maintain his tools shop...and eat. And that's before counting material costs.

That figure is not that far off the beam counted in today's money. Remember though that during the relevant historical periods, the economy was not that heavily cash driven, but more reliant on barter and tithes, a well as payment in kind.


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Enough clubs, quarterstaves, slings, and sling stones to fill up the whole universe!


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One tank of gas.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16

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The complete set of equipment for one level 20 PC and his level 18 NPC henchman.

==Aelryinth

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5000 gallons of holy water
6250 gallons of alchemist fire (Battle of the Blackwater anyone?)
12500 gallons of acid

Shadow Lodge

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The most expensive wondrous item in the book costs 200,000gp.

Artifacts are more powerful, but are considered priceless.


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Love.


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123 Tyrannosaurs, and 370,000 lbs of feed for them.


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FanaticRat wrote:
Love.

Money can't buy me love.


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BuzzKillington wrote:
FanaticRat wrote:
Love.
Money can't buy me love.

But 1,000,000 gold could buy you the services of 100,000 ultra high-end "companions."

Close enough.


Just think about a nation and what it can but.

Do I want a moderately sized navy or 1 20th level caster and his 18th level bodyguard.

Given that a reasonable use of planar binding, or simply going to the plain with dominate, would be to gain man low level eye in the sky type outsiders with teleport; the wizard can actually keep and eye on all those trade convoys you have. If pirates show up then greater teleport and wall of force/fire means no more pirate.

scroll of sending can get this unit any where pretty fast.


Lincoln Hills wrote:
thunderbeard wrote:
200 castings of Raise Dead. There are some upsides to this world.

You know, that might make a fun thread for Off-Topic: "Which 200 real life people would you raise from the dead, assuming you had enough diamonds?"

On the other hand I can see that one getting real ugly, real soon. ;)

I had to answer this one: Vladimir Sviatoslavich the Great 200 times, just so I could kill him those 200 times.


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chaoseffect wrote:
BuzzKillington wrote:
FanaticRat wrote:
Love.
Money can't buy me love.

But 1,000,000 gold could buy you the services of 100,000 ultra high-end "companions."

Close enough.

Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million gold pieces?

Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two azatas at the same time, man.

Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million gold pieces, you'd do two azatas at the same time?

Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause azatas dig dudes with money.

Peter Gibbons: Well, not all azatas.

Lawrence: Well, the type of azatas that'd double up on a dude like me do.

Peter Gibbons: Good point.

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I think that'd work a lot better with Succubi than Azatas...Azatas seem the type to be more 'free love' than 'paid companionship'. ;)


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Fair enough.

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Ravingdork wrote:
Enough clubs, quarterstaves, slings, and sling stones to fill up the whole universe!

Thanks, RD. Next time I'm trapped in an intolerable campaign under a suffocating GM (it happens more often than you'd think), I'll simply buy and stockpile enough clubs to cause his entire campaign world to compress into a gravitational singularity, thus destroying all life on it. Except for Elminster, of course. (angry muttering)


Seriously f*@+ you, Elminister.


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Me


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100000 doses of gunpowder
1000000 bullets
100000000 rats


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1000 axe beak eggs
1000 elephants
2500 combat trained riding geckos
125 griffins
200 hippogriffs
100000000 house centipedes
5000 pseudodragons
10000 leopards/cheetahs
25000 falcons
50000 stirges

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20 million arrows.

Let them fight in the shade!


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793 mithril waffle irons and 8200 lbs of iron steel waffles yum!
50000000ft of rope

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How many mithril golems would it buy? To the nearest hundredth of a golem?


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4.00


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Lincoln Hills wrote:
How many mithril golems would it buy? To the nearest hundredth of a golem?
Quote:


Construction
A mithral golem's body is made of 3,000 pounds of mithral and other precious metals, worth a total of 50,000 gp.

MITHRAL GOLEM
CL 18th; Price 250,000 gp

Wait, what? where do these numbers come from?


chaoseffect wrote:
Seriously f~#~ you, Elminister.

I think he may actually enjoy that, depending on what form or body he's in. I could be wrong.

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