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Nihimon wrote:@Taylor Hainlen, any way we could get the Guild Roster to sort by Account Name (case-insensitive) rather than by account creation date? That would make it a lot easier to find out if a specific user is in, especially once we get up around 50 members.This should now be the case.
You rock! :)

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I would like to echo the request of the leaderboard being extended to 10. I recognize the fairness of leaving Pax Aeternum, TEO, and T7V on the board so they have equal access to new recruits. Yet having them take 3 of the top 5 spots makes it a lot harder for the smaller or newer groups to get a foothold in the Landrush.

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I would like to echo the request of the leaderboard being extended to 10. I recognize the fairness of leaving Pax Aeternum, TEO, and T7V on the board so they have equal access to new recruits. Yet having them take 3 of the top 5 spots makes it a lot harder for the smaller or newer groups to get a foothold in the Landrush.
I support this sentiment!

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Will the crowdforger public be able to see each guild's "score" for a particular settlement hex? Like Hex K: guild27- 45, guild13- 32, guild51- 19 so we can see who's winning a hex and how close their competition is to overtaking?
Who the neighbors are going to be seems like a big factor in prioritizing settlement plots or just watching from the three walls already there.

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I really love seeing so much more variety in the leaderboard!
I accidentally discovered that the words "Guild Leaderboard" are indeed a link taking you to the whole list (with counts), for your perusing pleasure.
EDIT: Thanks, Taylor. It takes you to the "whole buncha Guilds" list, even if not all of 'em.

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KotC Nymerias wrote:I really love seeing so much more variety in the leaderboard!I accidentally discovered that the words "Guild Leaderboard" are indeed a link taking you to the whole list (with counts), for your perusing pleasure.
It's actually not the FULL list. It should only show the top 40(will have to check for the exact number tomorrow). For a full list of all signed up guilds you can go to the guild index and peruse through them in alphabetical order.
EDIT: Hrm, looking at the page only the top 30 are being shown currently. I'll have to expand that when I get in tomorrow.

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I assumed that it was at 30 to show who would be getting a settlement. Obviously the inclusion of the Big Three pushes that off though.
Indeed that was why we originally settled on 30 but we had discussed bumping it to 35 before the big three were given permission to join to allow others to see how close they were to being in the top 30. With the addition of the big three I don't see much reason to not bump up to an even 40 so people can see a little more of the pack following just behind the current leaders.

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Pax Morbis wrote:I assumed that it was at 30 to show who would be getting a settlement. Obviously the inclusion of the Big Three pushes that off though.Indeed that was why we originally settled on 30 but we had discussed bumping it to 35 before the big three were given permission to join to allow others to see how close they were to being in the top 30. With the addition of the big three I don't see much reason to not bump up to an even 40 so people can see a little more of the pack following just behind the current leaders.
I like the logic behind it being the top 40.

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I am a bit surprised at how few members are in the guilds, in general.
I must admit that I am more of a sideline observer, with high expectations, so I am not very much into the political back and forth on the boards.
I have been a member of some larger guilds, that in other games, have gone in and taken over a whole server, just by numbers.
I am wondering what would happen if they decided to do this in PFO.

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I am a bit surprised at how few members are in the guilds, in general.
I must admit that I am more of a sideline observer, with high expectations, so I am not very much into the political back and forth on the boards.
I have been a member of some larger guilds, that in other games, have gone in and taken over a whole server, just by numbers.
I am wondering what would happen if they decided to do this in PFO.
A lot of the reason for that currently is the price tag to enter Early Enrollment and of the people who have coughed up the funds for it, only a sliver are active on the forum. We've seen some come out of the woods the past day with the announcement of the Land Rush. All in all, it's a very small pool to fish from at this point.

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Request for goblinworks.com and the land rush guild list…
Looking through all the approved guilds and having each with a weblink is great but can you change the links so they open in a new tab or page when clicked..
I know I can do it on my own but would be easier to compare all the guilds and options while looking at everything, ( while at the same time keeping your site open and usable.. )
Figured I’d add this to the list of non important request for you guys to consider…

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I am a bit surprised at how few members are in the guilds, in general.
I must admit that I am more of a sideline observer, with high expectations, so I am not very much into the political back and forth on the boards.
I have been a member of some larger guilds, that in other games, have gone in and taken over a whole server, just by numbers.
I am wondering what would happen if they decided to do this in PFO.
Many people who missed the Kickstarter I believe cannot yet vote. There is some trouble getting accounts that funded via the Goblinstore to link with their Paizo account. Once this gets fixed I'm sure the rosters will grow tremendously.

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Cirolle wrote:Many people who missed the Kickstarter I believe cannot yet vote. There is some trouble getting accounts that funded via the Goblinstore to link with their Paizo account. Once this gets fixed I'm sure the rosters will grow tremendously.I am a bit surprised at how few members are in the guilds, in general.
I must admit that I am more of a sideline observer, with high expectations, so I am not very much into the political back and forth on the boards.
I have been a member of some larger guilds, that in other games, have gone in and taken over a whole server, just by numbers.
I am wondering what would happen if they decided to do this in PFO.
That makes sense.
I thought this had thread had been up longer than it actually have, so that accounts for a lot too I guess.Nice to see things starting up :)

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I am a bit surprised at how few members are in the guilds, in general.
I must admit that I am more of a sideline observer, with high expectations, so I am not very much into the political back and forth on the boards.
I have been a member of some larger guilds, that in other games, have gone in and taken over a whole server, just by numbers.
I am wondering what would happen if they decided to do this in PFO.
Ryan has talked a lot about the need to constrain the initial growth to avoid the Spike & Crash that causes so many problems for most MMOs. So, if you look at the guild numbers as a percentage of the roughly 10,000 players that might be in PFO in Month Two of Early Enrollment, and also consider that the Guild Functionality has only been up for a couple of days, and only been advertised to Kickstarter Backers for a day, I'd say they're pretty good.
I also find it interesting that the numbers are generally conforming to the numbers from the original Land Rush poll.

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Exciting times! I noted BigTown hasn't showed up yet, did no one send them a notification? Also, it will be interesting to see how the smaller "guilds" consolidate their votes to get a settlement. Who will go where with whom?
It's still early so no wonder we haven't seen much talk of consolidation yet, guess everyone is waiting and observing for now, and also just trying to get their members' accounts working.

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A (hopefully) quick question, as I haven't followed the developments of Pax over the last several months...How does Pax Golgotha relate to Pax Aeternum with regard to the previous Land Rush, i.e. are they part of that as having voted in the past action, or a wholly separate group of folks that did not vote in the previous rush?

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Exciting times! I noted BigTown hasn't showed up yet, did no one send them a notification? Also, it will be interesting to see how the smaller "guilds" consolidate their votes to get a settlement. Who will go where with whom?
It's still early so no wonder we haven't seen much talk of consolidation yet, guess everyone is waiting and observing for now, and also just trying to get their members' accounts working.
Thus far we've only got 33 guilds... and 33 settlement locations. Thus, if things froze as they are now every guild would get a settlement. However, I agree that we will likely soon see a much longer list and consolidating votes will be a good idea.

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Oh, and I forgot to mention I concur with the proposal to somehow visually distinguish those that have already landed a spot on the map in some way. This will become more and more important as the Land Rush progresses so people can more quickly understand which groups are options for trying to get specific spots on the map.
Also, eventually the "Top X" will have to reflect only current groups in the running for sites, as the big groups will soon dominate the entire leader board. At that point, it might be beneficial to have a separate page just for Guilds by X (where X can be size, alignment, etc.) that folks can sort to find Guilds. I believe the big guilds should always have some means of advertising "Hey, we're the biggest. If that's what you are looking for, head on over."

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... it might be beneficial to have a separate page just for Guilds by X (where X can be size, alignment, etc.) that folks can sort to find Guilds.
It would be really great if the Guild Index could be sorted by Member Count, Alignment, etc.

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A (hopefully) quick question, as I haven't followed the developments of Pax over the last several months...How does Pax Golgotha relate to Pax Aeternum with regard to the previous Land Rush, i.e. are they part of that as having voted in the past action, or a wholly separate group of folks that did not vote in the previous rush?
Hi Erian,
Pax Golgotha and Pax Aeternum are separate Organizations within the "Empire" of Xelias. They are both part of the Pax Gaming Community. No one that voted for Pax Aeternum is allowed to vote for Golgotha. That has been made clear to all of us on our site, a few times now. That hampers Pax Golgotha (for votes) a bit as some Aeternum members have since moved to Golgtha, but can't bring their votes along. That is ok, though, as Pax Golgotha is getting recruits steadily. :)
Other than that, All of Pax is following the rules and the Spirit of them as we understand them. We are all about that in our Pax Gaming Charter AND the Charters of our sub Divisions.

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Dakcenturi wrote:I wish there was a differentation on the Land Rush map for unavailable settlements and already claimed settlements. For clarification, what are the unavailable settlements that have not been claimed by one of the 3 already awarded settlements?All of the letters on the map are available. Three of the unavailable settlements on the map have already been claimed. These are; the settlement 4 hexes due west of I, the settlement 5 hexes roughly north-east of AB, and the settlement 3 hexes south-east of Y.
Yes I know where the settlements are, I was just noting for people who are looking at this for the first time it would be nice if they could see a differentiation between the 3 claimed settlements and "unavailable" settlements.

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...I was just noting for people who are looking at this for the first time...
Taylor, if you're following today, please consider whether marking Callambea, Brighthaven, and Phaeros on the map-for-public-consumption might be useful. For those groups looking to be near or far from us, it'd be a good one-stop reference to help their thinking as they prioritise spots.

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Dakcenturi wrote:...I was just noting for people who are looking at this for the first time...Taylor, if you're following today, please consider whether marking Callambea, Brighthaven, and Phaeros on the map-for-public-consumption might be useful. For those groups looking to be near or far from us, it'd be a good one-stop reference to help their thinking as they prioritise spots.
Agreed, a lot of new people coming in are confused when we are talking about the first 3 settlements already being claimed, etc. It would be very helpful if that was marked on the map for them.

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It would be really great if the Guild Index could be sorted by Member Count, Alignment, etc.
Well, you can sort by member count by clicking on the leaderboard link... but alignment would be tough (i.e. impossible) since that wasn't one of the data points they required and many of the guilds have not specified.

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T7V Jazzlvraz wrote:Agreed, a lot of new people coming in are confused when we are talking about the first 3 settlements already being claimed, etc. It would be very helpful if that was marked on the map for them.Dakcenturi wrote:...I was just noting for people who are looking at this for the first time...Taylor, if you're following today, please consider whether marking Callambea, Brighthaven, and Phaeros on the map-for-public-consumption might be useful. For those groups looking to be near or far from us, it'd be a good one-stop reference to help their thinking as they prioritise spots.
We agree that this is confusing for people who have not been following closely. As soon as the first draft date passes we will be adding an overlay to the map to show which guild currently 'owns' which settlement. When we add in the overlay we will likely add the big three to their positions at that time.
I may spend some of my own free time getting the overlay with just the big three up before then but the tool for generating the overlay was not designed with 'extra' settlements not in the database of selectable settlements in mind. No promises as we are quite busy at the moment.

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I just noticed some icons next to The Empyrean Order and Pax Golgotha in the Guild Leaderboard. Can you tell us what those signify?
[Edit] Hrm, more and more keep popping up, very interesting :)
These will be used to mark what settlements are where on the map after the first draft. They are made using existing icons from various feats in the game (I think sunder is in there, and one of our spells hellflume, etc) with a color. The colors and symbols have no real relation to the guilds, it's just a place marker. Only those guilds with more than five members have icons currently.