The Flash TV Series


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heheh, the writers must have loved that.


That would be amazing.


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I don't believe that rumor if only because Wentworth seems like being a gay good guy version of Cold. But I could be wrong.

I DO think though Goldberg with a beard is better since he did Santa's Slay Ride a while back. :)


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LOVE Santa's Slay... Gloriously absurd and it revels in it. :D


It does that indeed, phantom.


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damn it Barry you dumb bugger, just had to screw around in prison.

and I guess with Ciciel, we know how they are going to put together the anti-telepath gear.

plus I got a kick out of how much she seems to enjoy it.

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Cecile the mind-reader was hysterical.

Btw, who is this "Jenni" people are talking about?

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Jenni Ognats


Jason,

One of Barry's grand kids from the future.


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Random comment: How much tranq did it take to knock barry out? How do you gauge that? The man can't drink fast enough to get drunk his metabolism works to well. How to you put in the right amount to knock him out and not kill him? I guess you just put in ALL the Tranq and assume it won't kill him.

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Cisco can get him drunk.


Vid,

No clear idea but somehow I guess the Warden figured it out. Maybe. I dunno. Once again, lazy writing.


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Right I guess if Devoe is involved he could of figured out how to properly roofie him.

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Pull the info from Cisco or Caitlin's heads and implant it in the warden's.


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Well i'm glad we got that figured out it was bothering me. lets hope they don't drug supergirl next with some sort of kryptonite laced chemical which would assume her biology was still similar enough for chemicals that work on humans to work on her. Now we can still drug Oliver!

Scarab Sages

With so many people knowing he's the Flash, I keep wondering why the writer's don't just have him unmask to the whole damned city.


A-zombie,

It's not THAT many. At most it's a little more than a handful. I think.
I mean most of Central City doesn't know Barry is the Flash.


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Someone should tally up how many people know Barry's the Flash vs. how many people know Ollie's Green Arrow.

Neither of them really understands the "secret" part of secret identity.


Damon,

I'm pretty sure more people suspect or know Oliver is the Green Arrow than they know that Barry is the Flash.


I think its the writers that don't get it.

At one point Erica Durance (Lois) was the only series regular on Smallville that didn't know the secret.

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Or it's just that it's really impossible to keep a secret like that in the age of mobile phone cameras and satellite surveillance?


Tell that to batman.


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Vidmaster7 wrote:
Tell that to batman.

He's not even real. Just some urban myth the gangs in Gotham made up because some rivals or the GCPD were taking them out.


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And that is how good he is. on a whole different level.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
And that is how good he is. on a whole different level.

If he existed. Which he doesn't. Just ask Gordon.

You know, I hear he thought that the uncrowned prince of the city, just returned from a decade of travel, was actually this Batman. That playboy Wayne capable of putting fear in all those criminals. Yeah, right.


personally I find the Flash TV series to be like "young fiction", not very good on average. Dumb at times. It reminds my that TV shows are all about getting you to watch the commercials...


phantom1592 wrote:

Sadly 'hero goes to jail' isn't nearly that 'original' of a plot... so I expect a lot of the old cliché's to pop up soon.

It's not even original for CW shows. I mean, Ollie is threatened with jail for his activities as the Arrow this season. At least the pacing of that trial matches real life, unlike the four weeks it took for crime, arraignment, trial, and sentencing for Barry. With Holiday breaks in between, to boot!


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BTW, FBI chick left Star City suddenly. And at the same time the CCPD CSI is accused of murder.

It would have made sense that the FBI was called in to examine the scene.

To which a friend that just watched the trial ep noted several problems them prosecution and the investigators should have noted and answered - because a competent defense would have used them.
1) The accused is a CSI, he knows how people get caught. So why was he so obvious?
1a) Why did he trip his own alarm moments before the cops came in?
2) Where was all the blood? He was obviously killed somewhere else and transported there. Why would Allen do that?
2a) Besides the prints on the blade, and the location, was there any physical evidence to connect Allen?
3) Her lover is a good suspect. And we just take the widows word that her husband was ok with the arrangement? We don't even question the lover to corroborate? We don't check to see if he had a sick father?


Answers to 1 and 1: He could be a moron or careless.

2. It's not that obvious IF people accept he was killed there. 2a) yeah he was standing over the dead body.

3. I'm assuming they think their marriage was an open one. Those things happen. Though admittedly, they should have pressed harder on the widow but I guess they settled on Barry since he was standing over a dead body.


Vidmaster7 wrote:
And that is how good he is. on a whole different level.

Lex knows, that's how he blackmailed Bats into letting him on the Justice League. I don't think that's been erased yet


Yeah I agree with dragon for her being one of the best attorneys her defense sucked. Did she even try a defense other then character witnesses? I don't even watch law shows and I was thinking their was so much wrong with the case. Also I feel a appeal should be acceptable given everything going on.


Another point where the writers wanted this and wrote it.
Remember how Ollie taught Barry to scout the area then movie in? And there was a SWAT team moving through the building toward his apartment when he entered the building.
1) How did he not see them? I'll assume multiple doors to allow for not passing them in the hall.
2) If he had "run" when they knocked - that is not be seen in the room, and immediately returned to Joe's house, he would have had several credible witnesses to vouch for his whereabouts.

Also another trial issue. Shortly before the first incident with Barry and the deceased, he was picked up and delivered to CCPD, naked and in a fugue state. This should suggest not guilty by reason of insanity. More importantly, every case he was involved in this season should be facing retrial. The lawyers for those cases should be calling for mistrials anyway right now.


Which is another point for my side. That him going to prison an innocent man is a greater crime against the justice system then if he used an extreme method to prove his innocence. Such as showing he was the flash or even planting false evidence. So not only is he hurting the concept of the justice system by allowing himself to go to prison but also It would have actual ramification.


btw my friend that noted the points I brought up yesterday afternoon had another: the judge was making prejudicial comments during the trial. That should automatically get a mistrial, and potentially disbar the judge.


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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
btw my friend that noted the points I brought up yesterday afternoon had another: the judge was making prejudicial comments during the trial. That should automatically get a mistrial, and potentially disbar the judge.

Well Green I think we should move for a mis-trial.


We are also debating who is the worse lawyer: Cecile or Laurel.

I posited that Laurel was a better superhero than a lawyer, and she was KIA.


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Man that took me back its been awhile I forgot she even was a lawyer.


Green,

Dunno. I think Laurel is a better lawyer than Cecile right now. She at least didn't let an innocent man go to prison.

Overall I agree this whole thing should have been a mis-trial from the start.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:

BTW, FBI chick left Star City suddenly. And at the same time the CCPD CSI is accused of murder.

It would have made sense that the FBI was called in to examine the scene.

To which a friend that just watched the trial ep noted several problems them prosecution and the investigators should have noted and answered - because a competent defense would have used them.
1) The accused is a CSI, he knows how people get caught. So why was he so obvious?
1a) Why did he trip his own alarm moments before the cops came in?
2) Where was all the blood? He was obviously killed somewhere else and transported there. Why would Allen do that?
2a) Besides the prints on the blade, and the location, was there any physical evidence to connect Allen?
3) Her lover is a good suspect. And we just take the widows word that her husband was ok with the arrangement? We don't even question the lover to corroborate? We don't check to see if he had a sick father?

Well, as badly as I think this was written, just to play devil's advocate here...

Points 2 and 2a... the fact that there was little to no evidence to connect him to the crime... really COULD be answered with point 1. He's CSI, he knows how not to leave evidence. Granted that means he left the body for last and opens up a bunch of OTHER issues... but with someone with Barry's background, a lack of evidence would be a more a point in the prosecutions argument...

As for Cecile... isnt' she a prosecuter? I can chalk up SOME of her ineptitude to being on the wrong side of the case.


So let me go a little deeper. If he got arrested on a clever trick and then got set free on a clever trick lets talk about how much that invalidates the whole trust in the justice system thing Barry was pushing. I suppose the reality is he just didn't want to have to perpetually be a wanted man. say If he vibrated through the walls and ran out. This way does work better for him keeps his secret identity etc. The morale of the story is super-powers allows you to ignore the law.


I'm sure I've harped on this before but:
Either there were THIRTEEN people on the bus. Or there are only two left unaccounted for. Unless the bus was being droned piloted, the driver was on it.


Green,

Some thing tells me the writers don't think the Driver made it. I could be wrong.

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Did they ever say there were 12 passengers on the bus? I thought they said there were 12 people on the bus. So one's the driver. Though unless one of the metas they already met was the driver, it's a pretty big miss on team Flash (as well as DeVoe) to not look up the driver and find their next missing meta.


GreenDragon1133 wrote:

I'm sure I've harped on this before but:

Either there were THIRTEEN people on the bus. Or there are only two left unaccounted for. Unless the bus was being droned piloted, the driver was on it.

The infrared picture of the bus shows twelve spots, including one in the driver's seat.


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And he is accounted for as dead. But isn't accounted for with a picture last I'd seen.


Hah! I knew I was right!


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I'd just like to say that I also hate country music. Also why did she keep the accent after she was possessed? Will I have to put up with said accent the rest of the series? Is their a amount of bludgeoning I can do to my frontal cortex that will make me not hear the accent?


Vid,

My guess is even though DeVoe has control over her mind and body, some residue parts of Izzy's self remains. Like the accent.


I'm chalking it up to 'actor can't do anything but that one accent'.


I have to agree with Bjorn on this one.

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