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Ramarren,

Maybe but I always felt that Eel was different mostly because he had (excuse the unintended pun), flexible about what morals he had.

Regardless, I like this Ralph Dibney.


I wonder how long they spent Bouncing ideas off the wall till they decided on elastic man. At first I thought having him on the show would STRETCH my disbelief to the limit, but I think it rebounded nicely.

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I was cool with the Dibney character. Maybe they'll even bring in Sue. At least my wait for the nose-thing paid off.


Yep. The nose thing was a great closer. :)

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Ye gods! That was.....horrid.....best word I can think of. Lame story. One of the most lame villains from the Wally West era, although Katie Sackoff was pretty awesome. Ralph continues to be awesome. The meta they introduced was lame.

Overall, pretty weak.


Eh. Not the BEST stories but compared to Inhumans, I'll give this one a pass on "It could be worse." But yeah Katie was great. Her villain...less so.

My guess on the meta, it's all part of DeVoe's plan to...something?


Controls computers - inside Iron Heights
Controls Luck - inside Iron Heights (I think)
stretchy - Team Flash
Controls Emotion/Love? - captured directly by the Thinker.

Of the 4 Ralph seems to be sort of out of place. I mean the other three used properly and you are looking at some serious potential chaos in the city. Ralph...not so much?

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Controls - His own physiology

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How in the hell did Berry get drunk?

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Hama wrote:
How in the hell did Berry get drunk?

It's a defense mechanism used by the actor to survive reading the scripts. It just bled through to the character he was playing.


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Hama wrote:
How in the hell did Berry get drunk?

New version of Cisco's special for Speedsters. We saw it in season 1 but it was a lot less effective that time.

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Almost forgot about Goth One Eye. I thought I had seen some lame super powers, but....oooh, I have a weirdly grabby tentacle which emerges from my eye socket.

He's the kind of villain the other super villains all pick on.

I think he makes Paste-Pot Pete look cool.

And now I just want to see Barry grab him by his eye tentacle and drag him through the streets.

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Greylurker wrote:

Controls computers - inside Iron Heights

Controls Luck - inside Iron Heights (I think)
stretchy - Team Flash
Controls Emotion/Love? - captured directly by the Thinker.

Of the 4 Ralph seems to be sort of out of place. I mean the other three used properly and you are looking at some serious potential chaos in the city. Ralph...not so much?

It's possible that the Thinker needed say 9 power sets, but to arrange things so they got created, he got 3 which were extraneous, such as Ralph's. Considering that he hired Ralph to get into the Flash's orbit, he might have other plans for him simply to manipulate the Flash, even if he doesn't need his power.

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I loved Katee Sachkoff in this.


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Once again: "12 signatures. 12 Metas." Except one of those 12 is the dead driver, who's identity is already established. Repeating your incorrect statement does not make it correct, it makes the writers look stupid, and also renders the smart characters they are writing stupid.

But then, this is the show with the motto: "**** it Barry."

Incidentally, the showrunners noted that Wally is not gone (the actor is still a regular). His absence is partly financial (fx), and partly not having a threat big enough for two speedsters. And that there is a reason for his absence (beyond what we know).
a) Being manipulated by Thinker
b) Future Wally (around say, April 2018) can time travel and planned this to counter a move Thinker had them boxed into.


Green,

Future Wally might be much further up the time line in terms of coming from 2045. That's just a guess though.

As for Ralph, I'm inclined to think DeVoe's plan doesn't necessarily involve ALL the metas, just the ones that might prove the most beneficial to...whatever the hell it is he's planning.


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Cynical Ralph still going strong, but the real Ralph is showing through the cracks.

Particularly liked the end with the Balloon animals.

and somewhere in the multiverse Wells the Grey is muttering "Screw you guys, I didn't want to be part of your group anyway. I have a hobbit named Cisco to get to the mountain of fire"


Yeah with a magic ring made of mother boxes.


Ping ping ping.

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I loved german Welles

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I have a couple of issues with this episode:

Spoiler:
Why would the doctor tell these 2 strangers, no relation to the girl, how she was doing? Why would the girls parents allow guys they never met before near there daughter in the hospital? When they first caught Black Bision, they knew her powers. Why did'nt they bring her to a meta cell at star labs then instead of a normal cell in police HQ where there was a ton of objects she could animate and control?

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CapeCodRPGer wrote:
I have a couple of issues with this episode: ** spoiler omitted **

Because she had power dampening handcuffs and there is this thing called proper police procedure where you first book the suspect and transfer them to a holding facility later when papers come through.


Not that proper procedure and due process play more than an occasional role in these shows.


Occasional, yes but more so it seems like Iron Heights and the Central City PD are used to putting metahumans in prison for crimes and such.

I mean when they aren't dopplegangers of people from Arrowverse Earth-1.


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I found the balloon hand thing mildly disturbing.


I don't know why I'm so shocked at the blatant disregard for secret Identities.... but for some reason I still am. Between the hospital and the mugger... they didn't even try in this one.


I agree phantom I mean: How much more obvious could it be? oh the flash and other guy who is about your two's height was just their and now you two are here checking on her and wow your chin looks just like that other guys chin and who are you again and how did you know about this?


At the hospital, Barry could have flashed (no pun intended) his police credentials. Doctors would answer basic questions for the cops.

Wasn't the cat statue originally pink, and on Earth-38?


Still its putting it to the test when two guys same height same build same chins! are right there. Also kind of weird from the mom's perspective that total stranger is sitting around watching her daughter. I mean sympathy is one thing but how often do you see complete strangers holding vigils like that.


yeah, I was able to pass off the first hospital visit as cop credentials... it seemed weird to give personal information to strangers... but he IS a cop, so I could see that happening. However the balloon animal stuff just kills that... and zooming the other guy without a costume on... that's just stupid.

Barry would still have done something... but he would have disappeared for a fraction of a second and then flash would be there offering him a ride to the hospital. Doing it as Barry?!? just... Ughhhh...


The mugger did seem like he might have been tweaking. Maybe explains it.


I'm pretty sure between the gun shot and what ever he was on, the mugger probably won't have a clear memory of things. Maybe.

As for the hospital, I've seen people do weird things in hospitals man.


Ok I think we can logic out the "why" for Ralph now. Presumably his eleastic body is important to restore the Thinker's body to health.


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Greylurker wrote:
Ok I think we can logic out the "why" for Ralph now. Presumably his eleastic body is important to restore the Thinker's body to health.

That seems a bit of a stretch.


They all going to be regretting this episode when barry turns out to be right! (note didn't get to finish last 15 minutes so if it happened sooner shhh ill finish it tommorow.)

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Vidmaster7 wrote:
They all going to be regretting this episode when barry turns out to be right! (note didn't get to finish last 15 minutes so if it happened sooner shhh ill finish it tommorow.)

It's just bad child-rearing to reward Barry with being right for doing so many bone-headedly wrong things! Don't encourage him by making 'be an idiot, do what everyone is telling you could get you fired and / or arrested!' be the *right* choice!

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Greylurker wrote:
Ok I think we can logic out the "why" for Ralph now. Presumably his eleastic body is important to restore the Thinker's body to health.
That seems a bit of a stretch.

ha!


Why didn't he:
1) wear a mask?
2) look for the other cameras he expects are there?


GreenDragon1133 wrote:

Why didn't he:

1) wear a mask?
2) look for the other cameras he expects are there?

The same reason he didn't carry a recording device when he confronted DeVoe and heard him confess to everything: the one thing Barry doesn't do fast is think.

The way that encounter should have gone is to have Barry record it, but then discover upon playback there was nothing there; DeVoe had anticpated that contingency and was carrying a device of his own that interfered with recording devices.


I really think the reason that Barry was SO SURE about DeVoe is that while he was in the Speed Force, he saw everything in his timeline, end to end. Some subconscious part of him KNEW that DeVoe was bad, but he couldn't explain why - because his conscious mind can't process that all-encompassing now of being out of the normal way time works for humans.

The reason he was so sure is because he'd already lived it all, he just wasn't able to realize he had.

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Just please don't bring back the grumpy angsty Barry.


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Hama wrote:
Just please don't bring back the grumpy angsty Barry.

What he said. I like to see some heroes that are happy and optimistic.


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I like Jemstone's idea.


Vid,

I do too. It's a reasonable thing to believe. That and the whole Savitar and Kadabra stuff.

Regardless, my main gripe is that some how DeVoe thinks he's better than ANY one at being smart.

Hello?! Lex Luthor?!! I'd like to see the Thinker solve the Anti-Life Equation or something hard like that, instead of build himself a new body.

Btw I also think it might be he might try to TRANSFER his mind into the Flash IF the body thing doesn't work out.

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Lex is brilliant. Thinker's superpower is being smart. He's probably smarter. Especially in the Arrowverse where there is no mention of Lex Luthor.


Not on THIS Earth, no Hama...


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I want to hear more about Wally's battle with Starro.


What Damon said^


So why couldn't it be Thawne-X?


Greenie,

Are you asking why I don't count Thawne-X? Or something else?


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I think he's asking why Team Super Nazi had Earth 1's Thawne (wearing Wells' face, no less) instead of either Earth-X's Flash or Thawne. Which is something I'm curious about as well, because it just felt really weird that he was the most "True Believer" of the 3 head badguys.

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