Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild launches at Gen Con!


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At about 9 PM Eastern tonight—that's in about two hours—Gen Con will be posting their event catalog, which includes the debut of "Season 0" of our organized play program for the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game. Event Registration will open on Sunday, May 18 at noon Eastern on gencon.com.

There are a limited number of spaces available, so if you're going to Gen Con, and you want to get in on the action, do not delay in signing up! They have a Event Registration Wish List feature that I believe will be active tonight, and adding the events you want to sign up for to your wish list will apparently help you in some way. (Sorry I don't know the details!)


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Well, that settles it, definitely going to Gencon this year :)


I'm slightly confused by the event description. In one place, it says "Each player must have a PACG Class Deck to play;" under Materials Provided, it says, "Yes, materials are provided for this game. You do not need to bring your own."

We're interested in this event, but having never played the PACG before, I'm a little skeptical of dropping money on Class Decks or committing to 8 hours of events before we even play the game. Is this event not right for us? Is there another PACG event we can try?

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How does one sign up for the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Guild?


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The games start at 8am on Thursday. My question is this, will society decks be available BEFORE gen con to purchase so we have them first thing on thursday? As in PRE-Order from the website and such? Look forward to playing, on 97 more days.

***** Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

I'm "GMing" 7 slots of ACG Demos at Gencon. I was under the impression it was just using the demo decks that have been around for a bit. Do you happen to know if that's still the case for this year?

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John du Bois wrote:

I'm slightly confused by the event description. In one place, it says "Each player must have a PACG Class Deck to play;" under Materials Provided, it says, "Yes, materials are provided for this game. You do not need to bring your own."

We're interested in this event, but having never played the PACG before, I'm a little skeptical of dropping money on Class Decks or committing to 8 hours of events before we even play the game. Is this event not right for us? Is there another PACG event we can try?

I'd be surprised if they didn't have demo games being run somewhere (quite possibly the booth) these are likely to be drop ins though, rather than events bootable through the Gencon system.


Enlight_Bystand wrote:
John du Bois wrote:

I'm slightly confused by the event description. In one place, it says "Each player must have a PACG Class Deck to play;" under Materials Provided, it says, "Yes, materials are provided for this game. You do not need to bring your own."

We're interested in this event, but having never played the PACG before, I'm a little skeptical of dropping money on Class Decks or committing to 8 hours of events before we even play the game. Is this event not right for us? Is there another PACG event we can try?

I'd be surprised if they didn't have demo games being run somewhere (quite possibly the booth) these are likely to be drop ins though, rather than events bootable through the Gencon system.

Yes, but the wait time for a dealer hall demo last year is the reason I still haven't tried the game. Not willing to go through that wait.

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LEPLEY wrote:
The games start at 8am on Thursday. My question is this, will society decks be available BEFORE gen con to purchase so we have them first thing on thursday? As in PRE-Order from the website and such? Look forward to playing, on 97 more days.

I was wondering the same thing, as the dealer's room doesn't even open until 10 on Thursday(9 if you're a lucky VIG or Trade Day attendee). But then there is this in the event description:

Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild wrote:
Each player must have a PACG Class Deck to play; or you can bring proof of registration for four or more slots to get one free at the event.

So it looks like if you sign up for four or more slots you get a free class deck.

Edit: Oh, and I presume the "materials provided" are the Skull&Shackles base set box. As in, you only need the class deck and all the scenarios/loactions/monsters/etc will be provided.

Grand Lodge ***** Global Organized Play Coordinator

LEPLEY wrote:
The games start at 8am on Thursday. My question is this, will society decks be available BEFORE gen con to purchase so we have them first thing on thursday? As in PRE-Order from the website and such? Look forward to playing, on 97 more days.

People that register and have four or more tickets for four or more sessions will receive a free player deck. If you are not registering for four or more events, you will have to wait until you purchase one when the dealer hall opens.

Grand Lodge ***** Global Organized Play Coordinator

John du Bois wrote:

I'm slightly confused by the event description. In one place, it says "Each player must have a PACG Class Deck to play;" under Materials Provided, it says, "Yes, materials are provided for this game. You do not need to bring your own."

We're interested in this event, but having never played the PACG before, I'm a little skeptical of dropping money on Class Decks or committing to 8 hours of events before we even play the game. Is this event not right for us? Is there another PACG event we can try?

We will be providing the base sets that can be used at each table. So, we are supplying those materials. Players will need to supply their own character deck. We will also be having demos for every hour the dealer hall is open so you can try it out there, purchase character decks if you like it, then make your way to the card game room to play the adventure card guild.

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Pirate Rob wrote:
I'm "GMing" 7 slots of ACG Demos at Gencon. I was under the impression it was just using the demo decks that have been around for a bit. Do you happen to know if that's still the case for this year?

We are running demos in the dealer hall and have info people/helper/GMs/info resource in the card game room. On your Gen Con volunteer schedule I sent out, if you are scheduled for card game, it should denote in parenthesis whether you are in the card game room or the dealer hall.

***** Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

Michael Brock wrote:
Pirate Rob wrote:
I'm "GMing" 7 slots of ACG Demos at Gencon. I was under the impression it was just using the demo decks that have been around for a bit. Do you happen to know if that's still the case for this year?
We are running demos in the dealer hall and have info people/helper/GMs/info resource in the card game room. On your Gen Con volunteer schedule I sent out, if you are scheduled for card game, it should denote in parenthesis whether you are in the card game room or the dealer hall.

Thanks Mike.

Liberty's Edge ***** Venture-Lieutenant, West Virginia—Charleston aka JLeeBly

Michael Brock wrote:
We will be providing the base sets that can be used at each table. So, we are supplying those materials. Players will need to supply their own character deck. We will also be having demos for every hour the dealer hall is open so you can try it out there, purchase character decks if you like it, then make your way to the card game room to play the adventure card guild.

To clarify, those who are volunteering to run the card game will be doing demonstrations if running in the Dealer Hall, and actual organized play if running in the Card Game Room?

Grand Lodge ***** Global Organized Play Coordinator

JLeeBly wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
We will be providing the base sets that can be used at each table. So, we are supplying those materials. Players will need to supply their own character deck. We will also be having demos for every hour the dealer hall is open so you can try it out there, purchase character decks if you like it, then make your way to the card game room to play the adventure card guild.
To clarify, those who are volunteering to run the card game will be doing demonstrations if running in the Dealer Hall, and actual organized play if running in the Card Game Room?

Volunteers in the Dealer Hall will be running demos.

Volunteers in the card game room will be answering questions, helping hand out character decks and punching gen con badges, assisting new players with playing the game, and assisting with other organized play functions.

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

Hearing all this makes me so jealous. I wish I had the funds for GenCon. I'd love to see the Character Decks as well as volunteer with helping people try out the game. But alas, it is not in the cards (aka the budget). Perhaps another time.

Sovereign Court ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Missouri—Cape Girardeau

Speaking about running the demos, is there a specific format to them? This is my first time running the card game demos.

Sczarni

This is looking like an event that I am definitely interested in! I have a number of questions though before I sign up.

I've played through about 1/2 of the original card game, and I understand this is part 2 - the pirate theme.

How does it work when you sit down to play? Is it one scenario? Do you continue to play scenarios if people at your table haven't leveled up yet? Is there a blog post that illustrates this event / organized play further?

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Beltias Arkona wrote:
How does one sign up for the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Guild?

The Pathfinder Society Adventure Card Guild (PFSACG) is part of the Pathfinder Society.

To join the Pathfinder Society, you can go to this page and get a PFS registration number, or you can play in a PFS event, and you'll be given a number.

Note that right now the web pages are almost entirely about organized play for the Pathfinder RPG, but that will be changing between now and August.

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Jalcee wrote:

This is looking like an event that I am definitely interested in! I have a number of questions though before I sign up.

I've played through about 1/2 of the original card game, and I understand this is part 2 - the pirate theme.

How does it work when you sit down to play? Is it one scenario? Do you continue to play scenarios if people at your table haven't leveled up yet? Is there a blog post that illustrates this event / organized play further?

We haven't said a lot yet, though you should certainly check out this blog post.

Each 2-hour play session is a single scenario. (They generally will take less than 2 hours, but we want to make sure people have time to rebuild their decks and so on after the scenario.)

While Season 0 will use the Skull & Shackles Base Set and adventure decks, you'll playing new scenarios designed just for PFSACG play.

We'll be providing rules that ensure all players are the table have decks and characters that are appropriate for each scenario.

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So I'm sure the Powers that Be have considered this, but I thought of a situation that could come up with this style of play a la PFS.

Two or more players playing the same character.

In the normal game this can't happen as there is only one copy, but presuming each player brings their own class deck, and has chosen and potentially played a character from that deck (possibly played it a whole bunch), we could see a situation where multiple people show up to a table and all have the same character ready to go.

Also as a side question - I've never done PFS at GenCon before, but I've seen the mustering areas and such. If I buy a set of six tickets, for myself and five friends, will we all be able to play at the same table? Or will we get split up to fill out different tables?

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

Vic had said on another thread that for PFS PACG they will prefer to muster tables to avoid more class duplication at any single table. But that if that isn't possible if the players with the same class pay attention they can make it work.

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:
Vic had said on another thread that for PFS PACG they will prefer to muster tables to avoid more class duplication at any single table. But that if that isn't possible if the players with the same class pay attention they can make it work.

I can see how that would work at a large event like GenCon, but for that part I was thinking more along the lines of "4-6 random people show up to your FLGS each week," where it might be an issue.

Grand Lodge ****

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I am not sure that it would matter to the playability of the game. It might cause issues with immersion. Remember that cards that will ultimately go into your deck after the game come from your character deck box rather than the game box. Until we know more about that aspect, it is hard to say what impact duplicate characters might pose.

Similar to PFS, you can get wide table variation from a well balanced party to a collection of misfits.

I think if everyone's goal is to have fun, it should all work out.

***

also, as I understand it, each class deck will have multiple characters in it, so the fighter class deck will have (I believe) 3 different fighters to choose from, which means that you could in theory have: a character who uses armor a lot, an archer, and a two weapon fighter.

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

Each class deck will have 4 characters. 1 iconic, 3 non-iconic. And each of the 4 will have 2 unique role cards to choose from.

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Hawkmoon269 wrote:
Each class deck will have 4 characters. 1 iconic, 3 non-iconic. And each of the 4 will have 2 unique role cards to choose from.

Yes, each will have 2 roles to choose from, though like all other role cards, it's one physical card with 2 sides. 2 roles, 1 role card.

Grand Lodge *****

Vic Wertz wrote:
Jalcee wrote:

This is looking like an event that I am definitely interested in! I have a number of questions though before I sign up.

I've played through about 1/2 of the original card game, and I understand this is part 2 - the pirate theme.

How does it work when you sit down to play? Is it one scenario? Do you continue to play scenarios if people at your table haven't leveled up yet? Is there a blog post that illustrates this event / organized play further?

We haven't said a lot yet, though you should certainly check out this blog post.

Each 2-hour play session is a single scenario. (They generally will take less than 2 hours, but we want to make sure people have time to rebuild their decks and so on after the scenario.)

While Season 0 will use the Skull & Shackles Base Set and adventure decks, you'll playing new scenarios designed just for PFSACG play.

We'll be providing rules that ensure all players are the table have decks and characters that are appropriate for each scenario.

Vic/Michael,

Will each scenario have it's own cards too? So when we start our own organized play will be able to order the scenario's and then have to wait for the cards? I am really curious as to how the organized play will work? Because of the card based aspect of the game... are the magic items and allies and such all going to be included for the players to obtain during play?

Is it possible to get some more information about the actual organization of the play and ordering and such if it is possible at this time?

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

I'm not Vic or Mike, but: No. Each scenario will use cards from Skull and Shackles and the class decks, except for the scenario cards (and maybe adventure and adventure path I suppose).

The scenario rules (which locations to use, powers in effect for the scenario, how to win, etc) will not be Skull and Shackles cards but new scenarios specifically for organized play.

You'll be able to purchase the organized play scenarios for a month as a PDF from Paizo if you want to do them on your own.


So, what are these special decks we need to play? If I already have the Rise of the Runelords game, am I able to bring cards with from that to play, or is the character deck something completely different?

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

The class decks are completely different. See this announcement.

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Here's my basic understanding of the differences with the new organized play:

In a normal game, all your "stuff" comes from the main box and stays in the main box. You slowly develop your deck using boons and feats from the adventure path you're playing.

In Guild play, your player "unit" is one of the class decks. While you play scenarios built from the components in the Skull & Shackles main box, you actually build and develop your deck from the cards in your class deck. So while, during a scenario, you might acquire a nice weapon or spell, at the end of the scenario you send that back to the box and choose something from your individual class deck.

I also believe that the downloadable scenarios will all be things that are never shuffled and thus won't need to be printed on cardstock. You'd just buy and download the pdf, print it or bring it up on a tablet/laptop/whatever, and go.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of these things.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

That's pretty accurate!


So here's a question: can we use a character from the new character decks in a campaign like S&S or RotR and allow them to keep cards they acquire (thus massively adding to the pool of available characters)?

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

vagabondriot wrote:
So here's a question: can we use a character from the new character decks in a campaign like S&S or RotR and allow them to keep cards they acquire (thus massively adding to the pool of available characters)?

Absolutely yes! That is probably the part I'm most excited about.

Notice the announcement actually separates the class decks and organized play as separate announcements. They are two related but not the same thing.


When can we expect to see pre-orders go up fot the class decks? Kinda odd that we can see AP3 in Skull and Shackles but no preorders for those. Holding off for further announcements?

My enthusiasm for this game is pretty much never ending and I guess its mostly that I'm just anxious for any details I can get... literally... all.... the.... time...


It appears that the class decks will be for sale at GenCon for the organized play.

That's also how PACG started, it went on sale at GenCon first, and then was made available for sale elsewhere.

So I'd assume after GenCon, the class decks will be made available for purchase somehow, but no clue how long after GenCon that'll happen.

Sovereign Court

All I know is I'm grabbing the fighter and cleric decks right away, and more depending on the price. Excitedly waiting for a monk deck, whenever that one ends up being released.

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I'm signed up for 4 sessions at GenCon. Really looking forward to it!

I assume that the class decks will be part of the PACG subscription?

Venture-Lieutenant, Online—ACG aka Hawkmoon269

TanRu wrote:

I'm signed up for 4 sessions at GenCon. Really looking forward to it!

I assume that the class decks will be part of the PACG subscription?

They will not be part of the subscription, but subscribers will receive a discount when buying them from Paizo.

Enjoy it a GenCon! Some of us will have to wait for the release to experience the awesomeness.

Grand Lodge

Ah, thanks for the link! I always forget to look at the comments after the articles.


Pathfinder Card Game Subscriber

I'm registered for four events at Gencon, when and where can I pick up the character deck? Additionally, it lists the location as 232 but didn't find that on the venue map. Help?

***** Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

Hawkmoon269 wrote:
TanRu wrote:

I'm signed up for 4 sessions at GenCon. Really looking forward to it!

I assume that the class decks will be part of the PACG subscription?

They will not be part of the subscription, but subscribers will receive a discount when buying them from Paizo.

Enjoy it a GenCon! Some of us will have to wait for the release to experience the awesomeness.

I'll take you some pictures at least.

I'm running 7 4hr slots of ACG demo, while it's the old stuff I'm sure I can sneak a peek at the new stuff at least.

Liberty's Edge **

My son and I are both signed up for four events at GenCon...It is kind of a 'no brainer' if you plan on getting the decks and are going to be at GenCon since I am sure the decks will retail for more than the $8 that playing in four events costs...plus the fun of playing the events!!


Makes me sad that I can't make it to GenCon this year. Any chance of organized play happening at BGG.con in November?

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James Henry 989 wrote:
I'm registered for four events at Gencon, when and where can I pick up the character deck? Additionally, it lists the location as 232 but didn't find that on the venue map. Help?

I believe we'll be across from the exhibit hall on the second floor: http://www.icclos.com/floor-plans.aspx . You'll be able to collect your character deck there if you've got your 4+ event tickets in hand, or you can purchase one from the Paizo booth during dealer room hours.

eugene256 wrote:
Any chance of organized play happening at BGG.con in November?

We hope to be able to present some, either as ourselves or through a local Pathfinder Society officer. Last year's Rise of the Runelords marathon was quite popular (and exhausting).

Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Seattle aka zeroth_hour

Tanis O'Connor wrote:
James Henry 989 wrote:
I'm registered for four events at Gencon, when and where can I pick up the character deck? Additionally, it lists the location as 232 but didn't find that on the venue map. Help?

I believe we'll be across from the exhibit hall on the second floor: http://www.icclos.com/floor-plans.aspx . You'll be able to collect your character deck there if you've got your 4+ event tickets in hand, or you can purchase one from the Paizo booth during dealer room hours.

eugene256 wrote:
Any chance of organized play happening at BGG.con in November?
We hope to be able to present some, either as ourselves or through a local Pathfinder Society officer. Last year's Rise of the Runelords marathon was quite popular (and exhausting).

Will you guys be at Paizocon? While I may not be able to head to Origins/Dragon/BGG, I can definitely go to Paizocon! :)


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Thank you for the info and better maps, Tanis.


Just signed up for the Gencon event! It sounds great.

One question - if I preorder/subscribe can I pickup the Skull and Shackles base set at Gencon....I don't think I'm gonna make the early rush on Thursday. I would happily preorder if I could just pick it up and not worry about wading through the sea of flesh!

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3Jeff wrote:

Just signed up for the Gencon event! It sounds great.

One question - if I preorder/subscribe can I pickup the Skull and Shackles base set at Gencon....I don't think I'm gonna make the early rush on Thursday. I would happily preorder if I could just pick it up and not worry about wading through the sea of flesh!

If you choose to pick up your subscription at Gencon, they'll hold it for you until at least Saturday (at least that's how it worked last year. :-D)

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