Beginner Box homebrew for 6th+ level?


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Scarab Sages

(First - If this has already been asked recently, I apologize, I've only been back a few months from a long Pathfinder hiatus)

TL;DR: Are there any homebrews out there for taking Beginner Box rules beyond 5th level, and if not, is anyone interested in collaborating on such a project?

Long version:

I know that by design, the BB only goes up to level 5, but I've seen a lot of people claim that the BB has become their "core rules" in order to keep the advantages that PF has over other d20-based fantasy games while avoiding the complexity creep.

I have a group with *very* varied rules expertise, running from "barely read the rulebooks" to "Would fit in with the hardcore 3.5 CharOp community". The optimizer likes to play complex strategic games and complains if I try to tone down the complexity in the game or use less complex systems for fantasy campaigns, and the other players tend to get rules wrong often or complain about increasing complexity. I'm fine with complex rules, I choose again and again to run 3.x/PF, but it's a strain on some players who are otherwise perfectly happy to play in campaigns run by myself or the other complexity-loving GM.

Since BB is compatible with the rest of Pathfinder, it seemed like the best option was to let each player individualy choose to build their character with the BB or use the full rules. Using BB only (though I also include the fantastic APG/UM/UC conversions from EdOWar) limits this to a 5 level game, which is nice for an E6ish game, but I'd like to include some high level adventure too. Which, for me, boils down to either "Homebrew the BB to advance beyond 5th level" or "Use Mythic Adventures in place of level 5+ advancement".

I don't mind using the Mythic rules in a campagin that supports it, but I'd like to see if continuing the BB to a level in the 6-10 range was something that had been considered or done by someone else on the internet, so I can keep that open as an option.


I believe there's a level 6 mod out there, but not level 6+.

D20pfsrd has fast play formatted rules in some sections which help streamline some rules descriptions. Else i suggest limiting PF to Core only and flat out ignoring some of the sub systems.

If you play BB rules from 1 through 5 you should probably be able to transition most players to core only slowly...

Scarab Sages

Thanael wrote:

I believe there's a level 6 mod out there, but not level 6+.

D20pfsrd has fast play formatted rules in some sections which help streamline some rules descriptions. Else i suggest limiting PF to Core only and flat out ignoring some of the sub systems.

If you play BB rules from 1 through 5 you should probably be able to transition most players to core only slowly...

If you happen to recall where the level 6 material is, let me know - I wouldn't complain about at least being able to go up to "Beginner Box E6" and go core rules or mythic0only advancement from there.

I'll take a look at d20pfsrd. That site already saves my behind on a daily basis since I can easily search for exact wordings when weird rules issues come up in play (which is a *lot* with my group).

Thanks!


Here you go with 6th level BB rules

Scarab Sages

D'oh - looks like the Dropbox links are dead.


Try a PM to the user or resurrect the thread and see if someone has them...

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