Monstrous Idea


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As charter member of the AP and a Rise GM what I'd love to see instead of new monsters is pre-stated templated monsters.

Ahh this book covers levels 1-4 the RMT covers 1 ogre to 1d4 wolves. A party of 4, 4th levels works over 1 ogre like a kid on a Popsicle, it gets licked. Now if in the back there is a stat-block for an advanced, shrine-blessed ogre or a mythical animal wolf instead of random 1XX creature those stat blocks become suddenly very useful.

Don't get me wrong I love the themed monsters they are kind of fun but sometimes I want a B1 or B2 creature that exists already but I need a specialized one to add flavor.

Anyone else?

Liberty's Edge

Pre-statted monsters would be a major time saver, to be sure, but it would likely take up space that the developers are unlikely to spend. When they can say 'advanced ogre' or somesuch and give Bestiary page references it is much easier on the development side of things. PFS scenarios are a major offender of this design since they need to scale encounters up or down marginally there are always tidbits about monsters with templates or conditions added on that is left to the GM to prepare.

Giving us the stat blocks already done up would be fantastic, but I don't think we will ever see it.


IIRC, Each AP usually does have lots of exampled of variant monsters or monsters with class levels. They just appear in the text of the AP, not in the bestiary section


Joshua Goudreau wrote:

Pre-statted monsters would be a major time saver, to be sure, but it would likely take up space that the developers are unlikely to spend. When they can say 'advanced ogre' or somesuch and give Bestiary page references it is much easier on the development side of things. PFS scenarios are a major offender of this design since they need to scale encounters up or down marginally there are always tidbits about monsters with templates or conditions added on that is left to the GM to prepare.

Giving us the stat blocks already done up would be fantastic, but I don't think we will ever see it.

i think he is saying he wants monster/creature templates in the bestiary similar to what they did in Carrion Crown with the sample zombie, animated objects, skeletons etc.

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My philosophy is indeed that the templated monsters are better served in the body of the adventure or as NPCs in the adventure appendix. We might do "template expansions" like what we did for animated objects etc. in Carrion Crown again some day though.

Liberty's Edge

Ah, yeah I think I misread the OP.


Joshua Goudreau wrote:
Ah, yeah I think I misread the OP.

i had to re-read it a couple times myself:)

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