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So, I'm working on a Forgotten Realms campaign conversion of a few prestige classes and one of them included as a prerequisite one of the feats that was removed for Pathfinder. I suppose I could convert these to just be a minimum level of skill ranks, but the feats were, I think, fine (from an intent standpoint) to begin with.

I haven't been able to find anything regarding why feats like Diligent and Negotiator were removed. As far as I can see, they add +2 bonuses to two skills - not exactly overpowering since there are feats in pathfinder that provide similar mechanics for other skills.

Anyone see any problems with house-ruling them as follows:

Agile: +2 bonus on Acrobatics and Escape Artist
Diligent: +2 bonus on Appraise and Linguistics
Investigator: +2 bonus on Diplomacy and Perception
Negotiator: +2 bonus on Diplomacy and Sense Motive
Nimble Fingers: Replace with Deft Hands

Sczarni

The only problem I can see is that if someone really wanted to max out, say, Diplomacy, they could take Investigator, Negotiator, Persuasive, AND Skill Focus for a total of +9 from feats.

I'm not exactly sure how maxing out a skill breaks the game-- at some point you just stop encountering DCs that high-- and you are spending four feats to pull it off, but be aware that the potential for such a shenanigan exists.

Sczarni

This isn't really a "rules question".

You may have better luck in the House Rules forum.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

I don't see any problem with Diligent, but the others open up untyped stacking.


I can answer the why as campaign book specific feats they aren't subject to the "open content" rules. Basically the same reason you'll never see a mind flayer or githyanki in PF.


Untyped stacking is the only problem. Make them trait bonuses and see if anyone still wants to take them.


Thanks for your replies!

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