Pathfinder Battles: Iron Gods... how likely is this to happen?


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I saw (and fully understand) the trepidation of including modern and some wonky otherworldly minis in Reign of Winter, and I know Iron Gods would be an even more niche and oddball set. So just how likely are we to see techno-barbarians, androids and aliens in prepainted plastic?

Shadow Lodge

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I would buy a set. And be very happy about it :-)


For the record, I would but the hell out of the set. Sci-fi and fantasy mashed together is the height of awesome to me :D.

Dark Archive

I would love this. I am pretty sure they will have it as they are doing most of the AP's now.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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There aren't any plans for an Iron Gods minis set in the near future. We're currently stepping away from doing simultaneous minis/AP releases due to the friction and hardship and frustration that causes both teams.

Grand Lodge

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James Jacobs wrote:
There aren't any plans for an Iron Gods minis set in the near future. We're currently stepping away from doing simultaneous minis/AP releases due to the friction and hardship and frustration that causes both teams.

This is a good move and I'm glad to hear it. If you guys stick with doing AP-themed sets at all, I'd like to see Legacy of Fire set.

-Skeld


I for one would love an Iron Gods PB set, and I would be happy if it came out a year or two after the AP. My group (which only meets every two weeks for about 5 hours) is currently working it's way through Rise of the Runelords [Mainly because I got the deluxe edition in the Leatherbound with the handouts and what not, and they saw it on my Lectern so now I had to use it you know.) After that we're hoping to move on to Carrion Crown or Wrath of the Righteous so at least my little corner of the Paizo-verse doesn't need the releases to sync up. I am sure I'm not alone in this either. That said, I repeat, I would love an Iron Gods PB set and would totally buy it (Granted I'd also buy a Carrion Crown Set, a Legacy of Fire Set, a Second Darkness Set, a Kingmaker Set, you get the idea.) Actually Jade Regent and Council of Thieves are probably the only APs I'd have to look at the set long and hard before buying (I don't do Asian Fantasy, I know some do, and that's cool, just not my cup of tea is all; and Council of Thieves was just kind of flat IMO).


Lol you do robots but Asian mythology goes to far? Actually Asian mythology fits in with all other mythology like a glove.

I would love a jade regent set most with Jinmenju, Rokurokubi, Jorogumo and all other awesome Asian creatures in it!


Gancanagh wrote:

Lol you do robots but Asian mythology goes to far? Actually Asian mythology fits in with all other mythology like a glove.

I would love a jade regent set most with Jinmenju, Rokurokubi, Jorogumo and all other awesome Asian creatures in it!

Never said it went to far, just said it wasn't really my thing. And a cool monster is a cool monster, I just don't need an overload of ninja, samurai, monks and monkey men and fox folk. My ideal I know I will never see because people seem so dead set against guns in fantasy. I mean an aisain set that included peasant harquebussers and imperial cannon would certainly catch my eye, but Jade Regent was, sadly, lacking in both.


I think it's very logical many fantasy-lovers hate guns in their games.
It makes perfect sense to me. If you have guns in every fantasy genre you should call everything time travel, space travel or science fiction fantasy, the middle ages fantasy would die out.

I can see why people would dislike human ninja's and samurai in their games, but Japanese Yokai demons (all mythology monsters from japan) aren't any different than greek, D&D and all other creatures spare for their bizarre names (which you can replace with English names as most have also a English name)


How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.

Scarab Sages

Guns and Japan go together in fantasy perfectly. Japanese production of guns in the 1500's was greater than any western nation and they brought 40,000 for the invasion of Korea.


Leo_Negri wrote:

How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.

Muskets & cannons are a very different story than computer-loaden spaceschip or machineguns


Gancanagh wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:

How do guns in Middle Ages fantasy make it time travel?

Cannon were in use in the early middle ages in warfare, as were muskets and arquebus (the handgunne). The heavy plate armor which so many people are fond of, wouldn't have existed without the introduction of firearms.

They make even more sense in Asian fantasy, since explosive-tipped arrows and cannon were used by the Chinese in the late 900's - early 1000s, with actual hand-held guns (not to be confused with modern pistols) being a regular feature in the 1200's.

And as I said, a cool monster is a cool monster, and I would almost certainly make use of Yokai demons, Oni of all stripes, Kappa, bakemono, Yonguai demons, Quilin, Kui mountain demons, etc. I just don't need bunches of Samurai and Ninja.

I probably wouldn't get so irked over Asian Fantasy if it was actually reflective of the diversity of Asian culture, but unfortunately here in the states the Genre is glutted with Japanese imagery as filtered through the lens of Anime, with a dash of Chinese unarmed fighting and hopping vampires for spice.

Apologies for the thread-jacking, bit of a sore spot as a gamer / history buff.

Muskets & cannons are a very different story than computer-loaden spaceschip or machineguns

Yes they are, though the crashed spaceship has been a staple of fantasy for around 30 years now (particularly in FRPGs). And although I want to see an Iron Gods set (With a gargantuan Annihilator Robot Case Incentive, here's hoping one is in the AP) it is not my ideal set, either. All of my arguments, aside from wanting to see an Iron Gods set have focussed on primitive firearms, not even, of the level produced in Alkenstar. Nowhere have I (or anyone besides yourself in fact) mentioned machineguns.


Ow sorry then. My hate for modern weapons has got the better of me I guess...

Dark Archive

Leo_Negri wrote:
With a gargantuan Annihilator Robot Case Incentive....

I'd buy it.

I'd buy 4 actually.


James Jacobs wrote:
There aren't any plans for an Iron Gods minis set in the near future. We're currently stepping away from doing simultaneous minis/AP releases due to the friction and hardship and frustration that causes both teams.

Hm. Kind of a shame on one hand, but probably for the best way on the other. I liked the AP themed sets, but there is no way to fit a representation of every unique thing in an AP in a 55 (well, 45 now) figure set. People have gotten upset enough about the contents of the fantastic AP pawn sets, and there are far more slots available for oddball stuff in there.

In addition, last week's blog cleared up a lot of production questions and whatnot, so I can totally see the wisdom of the decision. However... I want me some tech, and I am not alone, so Iron Gods AP set being off the table, will we be seeing any Numerian prepaints in the future?

Anyway, thanks for the response :)


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Even without an Iron Gods AP themed set, I still want a set with a Gargantuan Annihilator Robot as a case incentive though. ;-)


Leo_Negri wrote:

Even without an Iron Gods AP themed set, I still want a set with a Gargantuan Annihilator Robot as a case incentive though. ;-)

You and me both, heh.

I was thinking of possible future homes for Numerian miniatures... Pathfinder Battles: Forbidden Technology would be a happy set. Spread out across mainly things from Numeria and Alkenstar, but also including a couple minis from ancient Thassilon and some Lovecraftian critters that fit the theme... Mi-Go being the first to spring to mind. Then we can get a Gargantuan Annihilator Robot :D

Dark Archive

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IxionZero wrote:
Leo_Negri wrote:

Even without an Iron Gods AP themed set, I still want a set with a Gargantuan Annihilator Robot as a case incentive though. ;-)

You and me both, heh.

Me too! That was one of the things I threw at my players during our playtesting of the mythic stuff - four mythic annihilator robots.

It was very cool.

(It also made me unhappy with mythic time stop as a GM :)


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Mythic annihilator robots. Hm.

I'm reminded of Tweedledum and Tweedledee, from "Gene Rodenberry's Andromeda."

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