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I started reading X-men when Len Wein and Dave Cockrum came on-board with the "international" team, but probably really feel like it's the late 70's/early 80's team of Claremont/Byrne - maybe up through the Paul Smith artwork and the Brood Saga.

I think most of the original ideas associated with the X-men movies stem from this era. Elements of Days of Future Past; God Loves-Man Kills; Dark Phoenix; Rogue and Mystique characterizations - they all show up in the movies. As comic fan, its kind of taken for granted, but a lot of it was pretty unique when it came out.

After that, the "Wolverinzation" of the X-men comics and Claremont's penchant for "Mary-Sue" of the female characters at one time or another got of hand for my tastes. It was just before the Outback phase that I kind of gave up on it for the long-term.


Outback is when I jumped on. They will always be my x-men, with their funky "machines can't see us" thing, living in the middle of nowhere and always considering restarting their lives with the Siege Perilous when they aren't quietly saving the world and b$&+%ing about it because everyone thinks they are dead and have been for a few years now...


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I started reading X-men when Len Wein and Dave Cockrum came on-board with the "international" team, but probably really feel like it's the late 70's/early 80's team of Claremont/Byrne - maybe up through the Paul Smith artwork and the Brood Saga.

I think most of the original ideas associated with the X-men movies stem from this era. Elements of Days of Future Past; God Loves-Man Kills; Dark Phoenix; Rogue and Mystique characterizations - they all show up in the movies. As comic fan, its kind of taken for granted, but a lot of it was pretty unique when it came out.

After that, the "Wolverinzation" of the X-men comics and Claremont's penchant for "Mary-Sue" of the female characters at one time or another got of hand for my tastes. It was just before the Outback phase that I kind of gave up on it for the long-term.

This pretty much encapsulates my favorite X-men era as well. Anything after that? Meh. Even the Jim Lee era. I hopped on for certain story-lines after that but my favorite run is Claremont/ Byrne (Austin) / Cockrum/ Smith.


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Supervillains have the best health insurance. It even covers death, and includes secret lair replacement coverage as well.

There's also the rent 10 faceless henchmen get the 11th one at no additional cost thing as well. Works better when you rent in bulk. I wish they did this with robot doubles as well but the premiums for those things are EXPENSIVE.


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Hmm, my favorite era probably was actually in the 90s. I think it started around Ultimate X-Men 270 - 400 or so...and then went down hill fast between that and 500.

I enjoy the original X-men to a degree, but DC was actually better then Marvel for me back in those days. When the New X-men came around (or I suppose that would be the Wolverine, Colossus, Storm, Nightcrawler, group...it got a lot better for the next 100 or so issues. The height of all of that was the Jean Grey situation and storyline with Phoenix/Dark Phoenix and all of that.


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I read the Dark Phoenix saga a while ago. Still great stories... But I couldn't help laughing when it turns out that Xavier has a car phone. :-)


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Sissyl wrote:
Thing is, didn't it basically happen once before too? I distinctly remember an episode where Magneto kidnapped Xavier (I think), prompting Wolverine, Rusty and someone else to go to Genosha, which ended in Wolvie killing Magneto. This was never mentioned again in the continuity, so what happened? Psycho doppleganger there too?

That was a deplorable story written by Slobdell and Magneto was only heavily wounded (i.e. stabbed through the chest by Wolverine).


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You'd think that Magneto would be invulnerable to any metallic (or, rather, ferrous) piercing weapon ... or was that the period in which Logan had been stripped of his adamantium skeleton?


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Unless I misremember, he already had been re-adamantized by Apocalypse by this point. But, as I said, Slobdell.


The live-action movies were my first real exposure to the X Men, so they're what I think of when I hear 'X Men.'

I'm curious as to how Xavier is both still alive and in his own body in Days of Future Past. The 'alive' part was explained by the post-Last Stand teaser, but I don't know how Xavier got his body back. Maybe he found some mutant to clone it?


Heh.
"How Xavier got his body back" would make a great parody title and/or film.


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Ha, I've never seen How Stella Got Her Groove Back, but I'd pay good money to see Xavier getting his body back. Couldn't be much worse than the Wolverine film, right?

...Oh, yeah, I did go there!


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Ha, I've never seen How Stella Got Her Groove Back, but I'd pay good money to see Xavier getting his body back. Couldn't be much worse than the Wolverine film, right?

...Oh, yeah, I did go there!

I thought they were all Wolverine films?


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I started with the 90s, read X-Men comics for over a decade and then went back to the Essential books. I really have to say that 80s group feels the most like the "real" X-Men to me. Claremont, Cockrum, and Byrne really defined the team and everyone else kind of followed that lead.

In terms of Psylocke, I have to say while I didn't get far with New Mutants, in the actual X-Men title I did not see much personality before her transformation. Certainly not a deeply layered personality like some people are saying here, but to be fair there were other comics featuring her at the time that I haven't read.

Hard to read the current comics, I love Marvel but I have event fatigue.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Ha, I've never seen How Stella Got Her Groove Back, but I'd pay good money to see Xavier getting his body back. Couldn't be much worse than the Wolverine film, right?

...Oh, yeah, I did go there!

I thought they were all Wolverine films?

They are, but Wolverine at least lets the doctor ramble for a bit, Gene Gray have a close up or two, and other characters do something trivial once in a while in the other films.


I think when I stared reading Xmen the team consisted of Wolverine, Colossus, Havok, Storm, Longshot and Rogue. Might have been one or two others too but its been quite a while.


I read the X-men in the 90's and there were Xmen and Uncanny Xmen. I remember on one team there was Multiple man (so, different than the bad guy from the movie). There was a story line where one of his multiples got loose. I guess the writers were in a Comedic streak and Multiple man went after his double and every one split up (literally). The combat phrase was "GET ME!!!!"

There were a bunch of other X comics out there that I collected but not as much as the Xmen. I have since gotten rid of most of my comics. I have learned that they 90's was not the best time to collect them.

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I read the X-men in the 90's and there were Xmen and Uncanny Xmen. I remember on one team there was Multiple man (so, different than the bad guy from the movie). There was a story line where one of his multiples got loose. I guess the writers were in a Comedic streak and Multiple man went after his double and every one split up (literally). The combat phrase was "GET ME!!!!"

There were a bunch of other X comics out there that I collected but not as much as the Xmen. I have since gotten rid of most of my comics. I have learned that they 90's was not the best time to collect them.

Are you sure you're not thinking of X-Factor after the series was relaunched with a whole new team (Havok, Polaris, Wolfsbane, Guido, Quicksilver, and Multiple Man)? There's a great Multiple Man storyline from early in that run (would've been somewhere around 93-94, I think), but I don't remember one in X-Men from that time.


I collected several X series but I couldn't remember which was which but yea, Xfactor is the one. There was this one comic where MM got some mutigenic disease that was killing off mutants. I remember him being in some sewer and helping a mutant and being in a suit to protect himself. He took off his glove to tap the wall and send help (because MM has to physically touch something) and thus he was infected.

I read the 90's comics to read them not to collect them.

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I loved/love PAD's runs on X-factor. He mixes humor and pain so well.

He also gave us PMS, which really redefined Quicksilver.


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I started in around Jim Lee X-men 1 in the 90's, and as it was the team in the cartoon, that's pretty much my 'core' team.

Though honestly, I am usually annoyed with the lack of Colossus and Nightcrawler and Iceman... so really I tend to flip flop between the giant sized #1 and Cartoon version.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a team I REALLY liked. There were always SOMEONE missing. One of the things I like with the original five... the team is pretty set and traditional, and you know if you get one you'll get them all.

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