Wizard and Fatigue questions (2 questions)


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Hi everyone,

I have the following feat: Acadamae Graduate from the Curse of the Crimson Throne Campaign

Acadamae Graduate wrote:
Whenever you cast a prepared arcane spell from the conjuration (summoning) school that takes longer than a standard action to cast, reduce the casting time by one round (to a minimum casting time of one standard action). Casting a spell in this way is taxing and requires a Fortitude save (DC 15 + spell level) to resist becoming fatigued.

My two questions:

1 - Does using this twice and failing twice cause exhaustion? I read somewhere that magical fatigue doesn't stack, but this might not be considered magical fatigue.

2 - If you continue to cast Summons while exhausted, do you get any worse conditions applied to you for failing the saving throw for this feat?

Thank you for your help.


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Typically if a spell causes fatigue, it will state if it has an effect on creatures already fatigued. Usually the answer is no.

However, this isn't a spell causing fatigue. This is the act of casting a spell which causes fatigue. Unless I'm missing a rule somewhere, I'd expect that it would stack and make you exhausted.


Thank you for your reply!

Would you happen to also know the answer to my second question?


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I can't think of anything that speaks to it off the top of my head. I don't think anything would specifically prevent it, but I could be wrong.

I might houserule it in one of my games to be somewhat akin to a forced march (although a little backwards). So, you'd take nonlethal damage for continued failures of the Fortitude Save. But like I said, that's houserule territory. I have no idea if there's actually anything preventing you from continuing make use of the ability or not.


1. Yes
2. No


alexperience wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have the following feat: Acadamae Graduate from the Curse of the Crimson Throne Campaign

Acadamae Graduate wrote:
Whenever you cast a prepared arcane spell from the conjuration (summoning) school that takes longer than a standard action to cast, reduce the casting time by one round (to a minimum casting time of one standard action). Casting a spell in this way is taxing and requires a Fortitude save (DC 15 + spell level) to resist becoming fatigued.

My two questions:

1 - Does using this twice and failing twice cause exhaustion? I read somewhere that magical fatigue doesn't stack, but this might not be considered magical fatigue.

2 - If you continue to cast Summons while exhausted, do you get any worse conditions applied to you for failing the saving throw for this feat?

Thank you for your help.

1. Yes, normal rules of fatigue apply.

2. No, you are free to fail without issue.

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