Best staff for staff magus


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More specifically, this is considering the "Staff weapon" ability, where they say a magical staff has (for the staff magus) an enhancement equal to it's CL/4.

However, as far as I know, all pre-existing staves are CL 15 or lower. Anything better either has to be an artifact OR custom.

So, as far as I know, when you custom craft you must always use the lowest caster level of the spell used. So, for a single spell:

400*CL*Spell Level

So as far as I can tell, you cant have more than a +4 on a staff from this power. Can somebody prove me wrong?


I know you can boost the CL on prepared wands & scrolls, but how about staves? Can you have a staff of fireballs at CL 20?

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I don't see where it says that, I'm looking here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Creating-Staves

Magic Item creation general says: A creator can create an item at a lower caster level than her own, but never lower than the minimum level needed to cast the needed spell.

I don't see anything stopping you from having a CL 20 Staff of Light.


Petty Alchemy wrote:

I don't see where it says that, I'm looking here: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Creating-Staves

Magic Item creation general says: A creator can create an item at a lower caster level than her own, but never lower than the minimum level needed to cast the needed spell.

I don't see anything stopping you from having a CL 20 Staff of Light.

The problem being, a staff normally casts using the caster's normal spell level, and not the inherent CL of the item, like for all other magical items. Which is why I have some doubt...

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Why is that a problem? And you can use your own CL if it's better, but you don't have to.


I thought the schtick with staves was that they used the wielders caster level, so they scaled as you do. Or is that a feat? My memory is admittedly hazy on the topic. That could be the lack of sleep too. Gonna go grab some shut eye now, I think...


Necro for future information:

Staves use the weilder's CL and DC if the wielder has the spell on its spell list or if those values are higher than the wielder's. For anyone else, they use the item's.


The best staff for a staff magus is to use Spear Dancing Spiral to grab a fauchard, naginata, or similar polearm.

Enchant it via normal rules + arcane pool.


williamoak wrote:

More specifically, this is considering the "Staff weapon" ability, where they say a magical staff has (for the staff magus) an enhancement equal to it's CL/4.

However, as far as I know, all pre-existing staves are CL 15 or lower. Anything better either has to be an artifact OR custom.

So, as far as I know, when you custom craft you must always use the lowest caster level of the spell used. So, for a single spell:

400*CL*Spell Level

So as far as I can tell, you cant have more than a +4 on a staff from this power. Can somebody prove me wrong?

Reference: Staff Weapon. This makes a normal magic staff double as an enchanted quarterstaff. It uses the staff's CL, not the wielder's CL with the staff.

Crafting a custom staff, you can make one from your caster level down to 8th. For a single spell staff, cost is 400*SL*CL/#charges with price double. Minimum staff cost for a staff that uses 1 charge per spell is 6400. [Cost 3200.]

/cevah

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