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This movie rocks. I just love every second of it.
And when you disregard a minor thing like the fact that Abydos is actually in milky way, it fits perfectly into the canon.
Always hated those whiners who were like "Jack O'Neil isn't some cold, hard man, he is a fun loving...etc"...SEE THE FILM. LOOK HOW THE CHARACTER SLOWLY THAWS. It paves the way to the Jack O'Neil we know and love.
Another thing. What's with renaming Sha'uri to Sha're?
Second on Star Gate being a great movie. In fact I think I'm going to go watch it now.
Not a fan. Just couldn't warm up to it. Seemed like live action G. I. Joe to me, but and not in the good way.
I love the TV series, but could never really enjoy the movie. The movie just didn't click. Like the music though.
How much of it did you actually see?
watched the movie twice, have watched several episodes of the series.
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I loved the look of the movie.
The lower effects budget for the original series turned me off, but it seemed fun, and they developed the hell out of the fairly thin background presented in the movie (which, as I understand it, was drastically cut down from the original intended script).
Stargate Universe, on the other hand, was pretty awesome.
Ooh I forgot about universe. I liked universe, if that counts.
I particularly enjoyed the early SG-1 seasons. I enjoy a well done series without a long, over-arching plot, but stand alone episodes that work well individually while also peeling back layers on the characters to help form the picture of the whole.
SGU was good, it took too long to find it's feet though and that killed it. The first 6 episodes just failed to draw any new people in or keep people interested. I loved putting the characters in an extremely alien location, but using established technology in the overall series to maintain that connection to home and exploring the character's humanity in depth in a familiar setting as well.
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Loved the movie, didn't like the TV series in any way shape or form.
Ooh I forgot about universe. I liked universe, if that counts.Of course. It was great. Too bad it lasted so short. Now more people know how we browncoats feel.
Heh...
Loved the movie - one of my favorite movies, ever.
Loved the series (SG1).
Loved Atlantis.
Despised Universe. Good riddance (and ruined the franchise - no surprise there).
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Well, you can't expect movie makers to get everything right. Plus I think that SG teams are recruited from every part of the military, there are airmen, marines, rangers...etc...
Plus, some advisers military lends to a production team tend to screw up.
Majority of the SG teams on screen are Airmen, at least in the main SG show. The stripes and badges are a dead giveaway. I know I saw some USMC/NAVY cammies in Atlantis and the other series, but all I saw was backwards USAF stripes in the original. Doesnt help that it takes place at one of my former duty locations (Cheyenne Mt.), which is 99% Air Force. I know they cant get everything right, and it usually doesnt bug me, but this show is 150% worse than any other I've seen at plausibility (in that regard).
Loved the movie. Loved, loved, loved, loved the movie.
I... wasn't happy with the show when I first saw it, as a direct result.
Incidentally, once I got used to the ideas, I enjoyed the show.
I WILL NOT FORGET! I WILL NOT FORGIVE! EVER!!!!!!
BLARAGAHRAHGAHGAHGAHGAHGAHGHAGHEAEACA!!!!!!!
Sorry. I just never quite got over that. :(
I liked the movie a great deal, but I preferred the series (SG-1). The casting was perfect for the original team (despite my misgivings over "Macgiver") and not bad in it's last couple of years. Atlantis was decent, it took me awhile to decide I liked it but I warmed up to it. Universe was a bit dry at first. Then it started getting good. So, of course, they cancelled it. Sci-Fi, excuse me Sy-Fy made some bad decisions for several years (like trying to turn it into a sports / reality network). They seem to be doing a bit better lately. Now, we need a new Stargate series :)
Well, you can't expect movie makers to get everything right. Plus I think that SG teams are recruited from every part of the military, there are airmen, marines, rangers...etc...
Plus, some advisers military lends to a production team tend to screw up.
Majority of the SG teams on screen are Airmen, at least in the main SG show. The stripes and badges are a dead giveaway. I know I saw some USMC/NAVY cammies in Atlantis and the other series, but all I saw was backwards USAF stripes in the original. Doesnt help that it takes place at one of my former duty locations (Cheyenne Mt.), which is 99% Air Force. I know they cant get everything right, and it usually doesnt bug me, but this show is 150% worse than any other I've seen at plausibility (in that regard).
Air force has a special tactics SOF element. Not just aircraft (they have that too) this is ground combat. They get in, do ugly things to people and leave by air generally... or Stargate I guess.
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Air force has a special tactics SOF element. Not just aircraft (they have that too) this is ground combat. They get in, do ugly things to people and leave by air generally... or Stargate I guess.
Well, you can't expect movie makers to get everything right. Plus I think that SG teams are recruited from every part of the military, there are airmen, marines, rangers...etc...
Plus, some advisers military lends to a production team tend to screw up.
Majority of the SG teams on screen are Airmen, at least in the main SG show. The stripes and badges are a dead giveaway. I know I saw some USMC/NAVY cammies in Atlantis and the other series, but all I saw was backwards USAF stripes in the original. Doesnt help that it takes place at one of my former duty locations (Cheyenne Mt.), which is 99% Air Force. I know they cant get everything right, and it usually doesnt bug me, but this show is 150% worse than any other I've seen at plausibility (in that regard).
Yeah, I know what WE have in OUR branch. My point is, any Air Force guys on SG field teams would be Battlefield Airmen (what you're loosely referring to) not pilots, support troops, or base cops (which is whats in the show).
What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.
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What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.
Battlefield Airmen (Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, TACP's, or Special Operations Weathermen) are the guys conducting patrols, directly engaging the enemy, performing reconnaissance on foot, attached to other branches SOF troops, and they're the only ones with the extensive skill set to do those things. Our cops guard the base, give traffic tickets, and protect the planes. A pilot would never be on the ground leading an "elite team" doing anything.
As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.Battlefield Airmen (Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, TACP's, or Special Operations Weathermen) are the guys conducting patrols, directly engaging the enemy, performing reconnaissance on foot, attached to other branches SOF troops, and they're the only ones with the extensive skill set to do those things. Our cops guard the base, give traffic tickets, and protect the planes. A pilot would never be on the ground leading an "elite team" doing anything.
As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
Don't forget the Special Tactics Officers who run herd on the rest of the Airforce SOF types. Whatever the insignia issues in SG-1 it makes fairly good sense to have AFSOC run something like the Stargate program - especially back when SG-1 was a current show. Less joint ops in those days, more turf wars :) SG teams were reconnaissance as much as anything. They operated drones and gathered data. They used specialists (archeologists etc.) in their teams. They did drag in the Marines for combat teams. It would be different today I'm sure.
What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
On the Cyberwarfare wings, he could be a JCU member (which would actually make sense if you wanted an AF combat-hacker type)...
On the Cyberwarfare wings, he could be a JCU member (which would actually make sense if you wanted an AF combat-hacker type)...What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
O'neill - a hacker? lol!
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Majority of the SG teams on screen are Airmen, at least in the main SG show. The stripes and badges are a dead giveaway. I know I saw some USMC/NAVY cammies in Atlantis and the other series, but all I saw was backwards USAF stripes in the original. Doesnt help that it takes place at one of my former duty locations (Cheyenne Mt.), which is 99% Air Force. I know they cant get everything right, and it usually doesnt bug me, but this show is 150% worse than any other I've seen at plausibility (in that regard).Well, you can't expect movie makers to get everything right. Plus I think that SG teams are recruited from every part of the military, there are airmen, marines, rangers...etc...
Plus, some advisers military lends to a production team tend to screw up.
It's okay, any movie ever "shot on a Navy ship" is immediately obvious to me that it's not actually on a ship.
I'm only 5'11" and it was very rare that I couldn't just reach up and touch something in the overhead (maybe not the ceiling exactly, but a cable run or pipe). No jumping or no raising up on tip toe required. Wasn't true in every space, but most of them, and that was on an aircraft carrier, the most spacious of military naval vessels.
I would actually be impressed if a science-fiction show ever presented a spaceship as a cramped affair. Empty space inside a vessel is expensive and 'realistically' should be filled with valuable equipment (or make it smaller, making it more economical to build the craft).
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What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.Battlefield Airmen (Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, TACP's, or Special Operations Weathermen) are the guys conducting patrols, directly engaging the enemy, performing reconnaissance on foot, attached to other branches SOF troops, and they're the only ones with the extensive skill set to do those things. Our cops guard the base, give traffic tickets, and protect the planes. A pilot would never be on the ground leading an "elite team" doing anything.
As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
Um, I believe he was sent to abydos in the film because he was suicidal and would obey orders and detonate the nuke. So, doesn't really matter which part of the military he was in.
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Don't forget the Special Tactics Officers who run herd on the rest of the Airforce SOF types. Whatever the insignia issues in SG-1 it makes fairly good sense to have AFSOC run something like the Stargate program - especially back when SG-1 was a current show. Less joint ops in those days, more turf wars :) SG teams were reconnaissance as much as anything. They operated drones and gathered data. They used specialists (archeologists etc.) in their teams. They did drag in the Marines for combat teams. It would be different today I'm sure.What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.Battlefield Airmen (Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, TACP's, or Special Operations Weathermen) are the guys conducting patrols, directly engaging the enemy, performing reconnaissance on foot, attached to other branches SOF troops, and they're the only ones with the extensive skill set to do those things. Our cops guard the base, give traffic tickets, and protect the planes. A pilot would never be on the ground leading an "elite team" doing anything.
As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
Despite what wiki says STOs are Combat Controllers. In my beloved Chair Force we like to attCh grandiose titles to the officer side of the house even though it's the same job .
In my beloved Chair Force we like to attCh grandiose titles to the officer side of the house even though it's the same job .
The Airforce has a wiki? My info is from the Airforce, several friends, and some research done years ago. The AFSOC page is:
http://www.afsoc.af.mil/
It's okay, any movie ever "shot on a Navy ship" is immediately obvious to me that it's not actually on a ship.
I'm only 5'11" and it was very rare that I couldn't just reach up and touch something in the overhead (maybe not the ceiling exactly, but a cable run or pipe). No jumping or no raising up on tip toe required. Wasn't true in every space, but most of them, and that was on an aircraft carrier, the most spacious of military naval vessels.
I would actually be impressed if a science-fiction show ever presented a spaceship as a cramped affair. Empty space inside a vessel is expensive and 'realistically' should be filled with valuable equipment (or make it smaller, making it more economical to build the craft).
Have you ever seen "Das Boat"? It's a war film from a U-Boat's crew POV, and not recommended for anyone with severe claustrophobia. :)
Practical problem with what you want, is that shooting equipment and lights take up space.
Not every statement on the internet is intended to be a demand for change.
O'neill - a hacker? lol!On the Cyberwarfare wings, he could be a JCU member (which would actually make sense if you wanted an AF combat-hacker type)...What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
;-P "If..." Cyberwarfare wings aren't given unless you're trained in hacking and defense techniques.
Hacking doesn't lend itself well to movie/TV depiction, anyway. Too visually boring: all of the action is happening inside the network/system and is either too fast (the pre-coded commands to exploit the vulnerability) or too slow (analyzing scans to determine a vulnerability). I always laugh at the "frantically typing [keys at random] as fast as possible," as if human reaction speeds matter in systems that process commands in nanoseconds.
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I remember watching the movie and thinking "Why don't they open it from the earth side and walk back through?"
It wasn't until I say the extended cut that some soldier asks that question and Kowalski tells him that they tried that with a MALP but it only works one way.
It struck me becaue my brain went, "You edited THAT scene out?"
Loved the movie, didn't like the TV series in any way shape or form.
+1 exactly.
I think the fact that a lot was unspecified was what I liked.
Turning the concept into US Geeks, Grunts and offsider alien save the multiverse was a little too much like Sliders + UNIT.
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It was also the last film the dude who acted Ra ever starred in. Till 2008 that is. Because his costumes were so unwieldy and they forced him not to wear his nipple rings, he gave up acting for years...It's my understanding that he really wasn't wowed by acting or the spotlight, and returned to his first loves, modeling and design.
He didn't want to do Stargate at all, the only reason he ended up doing it was he asked for a million dollars to appear in the film, thinking it would be rejected, and the producers agreed.
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Um, I believe he was sent to abydos in the film because he was suicidal and would obey orders and detonate the nuke. So, doesn't really matter which part of the military he was in.What do battlefield airmen do? Would you lack base cops entirely? Walk us through what it would really be like as an air force op.Battlefield Airmen (Pararescuemen, Combat Controllers, TACP's, or Special Operations Weathermen) are the guys conducting patrols, directly engaging the enemy, performing reconnaissance on foot, attached to other branches SOF troops, and they're the only ones with the extensive skill set to do those things. Our cops guard the base, give traffic tickets, and protect the planes. A pilot would never be on the ground leading an "elite team" doing anything.
As far as O'neill, who's rocking pilot wings in the movie, and Cyberwarfare wings in the tv show....yeah no.
The movie wad definatly about 'who do we send to flip that switch'. Mind you I might prefer someone who isnt unstable enough to send the nuke home to take out the base.
I thought the Movie was okay, but the series was fantastic. I have all 10 seasons on DVD plus the two straight to DVD movies. A lot of people who like the show only like seasons 1-8, but I liked them all.
One thing SG-1 had was the ability to laugh at itself, for example Wormhole Extreme! I also liked the Marionette episode.
Though writers could have done anything they wanted, they had basically started with the Asgard as a dieing race. They couldn't just keep dragging that story line along. But again, they had the ability to write what ever they wanted to.
As far as Ben Browder and Claudia Black, I don't think this was Farscape meets SG-1. They played entirely different characters.
Also I think Richard Dean Anderson needed to be replaced as the lead character as he was getting to old for the part.