Are Paizo writers on drugs?


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Curious as to everyone else's take on things.

There have been a few APs that I have been very interested in ....until I read some of the plotlines.

I like my gaming to be fairly stock standard fantasy genre stuff.

Reign of Winter and Mummy's Mask both had me very excited. Until I read about travelling to Earth during WW1 to find Rasputin and Giant flying Pyramids.

I was just curious as to other gamers expectations.

Do you want more of the crazy ...out there ideas like the above or do you feel they're just getting a little too weird and would you prefer more standard stuff.

curious as to others opinions on the matter.

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Snow Crash wrote:

Curious as to everyone else's take on things.

There have been a few APs that I have been very interested in ....until I read some of the plotlines.

I like my gaming to be fairly stock standard fantasy genre stuff.

Reign of Winter and Mummy's Mask both had me very excited. Until I read about travelling to Earth during WW1 to find Rasputin and Giant flying Pyramids.

I was just curious as to other gamers expectations.

Do you want more of the crazy ...out there ideas like the above or do you feel they're just getting a little too weird and would you prefer more standard stuff.

curious as to others opinions on the matter.

The title of this thread is pretty rude.

I think the team at Paizo are doing a great job of pushing the fantasy envelope. You want standard, grab Rise of the Runelords, Shattered Star, Jade Regent, or Kingmaker, or Wrath of the Righteous. The "experimental" APs are what keep me reading and excited.


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...I can't possibly fathom what would possess a person to title a thread that way. Did common courtesy die sometime since 1990?

At either rate, I think having some 'out there' AP's is perfectly fine (and in fact desirable). If you don't like them in your Golarion or your world, then don't put them there. I don't think the writers are forced to write what one group wants to the exclusion of everyone else; that way lies entitled madness.

TL;DR: Show some respect, both for the writers of this forum's company and for your fellow gamers. It isn't too much to ask.


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Why so much hate on the doing drugs?
Point-of-fact, I've never met a gamer (who wasn't underage) that didn't drink. Alcohol is a drug, therefore, most gamers are on drugs.

:P

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Snow Crash wrote:

Curious as to everyone else's take on things.

There have been a few APs that I have been very interested in ....until I read some of the plotlines.

I like my gaming to be fairly stock standard fantasy genre stuff.

Reign of Winter and Mummy's Mask both had me very excited. Until I read about travelling to Earth during WW1 to find Rasputin and Giant flying Pyramids.

I was just curious as to other gamers expectations.

Do you want more of the crazy ...out there ideas like the above or do you feel they're just getting a little too weird and would you prefer more standard stuff.

curious as to others opinions on the matter.

I think that it is fine and no they are not on drugs.. other then headache medications from posting titles like yours though. Is there such a reason for such an antagonist title??


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I happen to like the "experimental" stuff they are doing. Flying pyramids sound AWESOME! If you like the standard fantasy, there are already hundreds if not thousands of regular dungeon delves if you consider all of 3.0/3.5 and 3PP. The fact that Paizo is willing to try out some non-standard fantasy helps keep the genre interesting.

As far as the title, you have probably about 40 minutes as of this post to fix it to be more tactful I believe.

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+1 to flying Russian pyramids.


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Gorbacz wrote:
+1 to flying Russian pyramids.

In SPAAAAACE!


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Flying pyramids? Like in Kung Pow: Enter the Fist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thHmT5q98k

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Neo2151 wrote:

Why so much hate on the doing drugs?

Point-of-fact, I've never met a gamer (who wasn't underage) that didn't drink. Alcohol is a drug, therefore, most gamers are on drugs.

:P

I don't drink alcohol, and I'm not underage.

Though, I do eat chocolate which contains caffeine. So yeah, I do drugs.


Dibs on the David's share!


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Sure, the WW1 section is a very, very different section, but it's cool to see unique sequences like that. There's only so many times you can go into yet another bandit camp or dragon's lair.

I'm also not sure what's wrong with flying pyramids. Fantasy is filled with flying islands and flying castles. It's not that out there.

Silver Crusade

Not after I'm done stealing them all, they won't be!


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No, OP's right. We should all have parties made of four hobbits, one dwarf, one elf and two humans (one of which *may* have elf blood somewhere).

In addition to this, we are all mandated to have a WAY HIGHER level Wizard NPC/GMPC 'accompany' us on our travels.

Also, the only acceptable enemies are Goblins, Orcs, evil humans, Wyvern/Dragons and wraiths.

Furthermore, No female PCs! Gad.

/sarcasm

In all seriousness, I really like half of the APs (Carrion Crown, Reign of Winter...) and could care less about some (Jade Regent...) and the rest are in between. Not bad, but then again I do not want the stage to be the best part of the show. Props and lights, sure. But NOT take over the story :)

Paizo, don't change a thing. You can't make everyone happy everytime, so I just glad that I get some great stuff now and again! :D

Liberty's Edge

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You know what, Paizo writers are just people trying to do their jobs and provide for their families by doing something they enjoy, providing fun for gamers. As people sometimes they will miss with one of their AP's. I'm not interested in Mummy's Mask. I thought Reighn of Winter was terrible. I think Wrath of the Righteous was just a way to show off their new Mythic rules and that they were too caught up in that aspect of the game. That said: Shattered Star, Rise of the Runelords, Serpent's Skull, and Carrion Crown are some of the Best adventure's I've ever read. and I bet it is really hard to hold people's attention to a common story arc for 15-18 lvls. I expect there to be flaws in every AP, That's where a GM should customize it. It is on the GM to make the author's vision become fun, and when the author's miss, just grab a different book.

Liberty's Edge

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As an aside, I'm 29 years old, and I don't drink.

Silver Crusade

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Actually no. I hate standard "high" fantasy. It's boring, tired, and been done to death.

Tolkien....ugh....fanboys....ugh.


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Are you holding?


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I am.

Grand Lodge

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Whatever it is, Paizo is doing something right.

I proposed Reign of Winter to a group and they turned their noses at it when I mentioned that they would eventually journey to WWI Russia. It's not going to be to everyone's liking. There are plenty of others to choose from. What is wrong with Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, Legacy of Fire, Serpent's Skull, Shattered Star, and Wrath of the Righteous? Surely you haven't played through all of those yet.


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Are Paizo writers on drugs?

Maybe?


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Apotheosis wrote:

Did common courtesy die sometime since 1990?

It died on Usenet, sometimes in September 1993.


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Hmm... there are a few spoilers here. I hope that someone hides those later.


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pennywit wrote:
Apotheosis wrote:

Did common courtesy die sometime since 1990?

It died on Usenet, sometimes in September 1993.

It's still September of 1993.


the David wrote:
Neo2151 wrote:

Why so much hate on the doing drugs?

Point-of-fact, I've never met a gamer (who wasn't underage) that didn't drink. Alcohol is a drug, therefore, most gamers are on drugs.

:P

I don't drink alcohol, and I'm not underage.

Though, I do eat chocolate which contains caffeine. So yeah, I do drugs.

Well, chocolate contains a caffeine isomer, theobromine, but still, good point!

Caffeine, drug of writers everywhere (with bourbon a close second...)


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I do think Paizo could even expand in that direction. I´m looking very forward to the Dragonkings release soon, the spiritual successor of Dark Sun!

So, flying pyramids and planetry hopping +1

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Yeah, traveling to Earth was rather jarring, ironically because it's something I would expect from an unpublished comedy homebrew.

The only thing I disliked from modules was that I've read many that follow the same trope of stopping a trapped ancient evil from escaping their prison. It's a good trope, but variety keeps my players awake at the table. Or maybe I just had bad luck picking my selection of modules..

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Hitdice wrote:
Dibs on the David's share!

If I get your share of chocolate.


What a dumb, offensive thing to say.

First: who cares? A good amount of artistic expression throughout history has come with the aid of mind-altering substances. What do I care where the idea comes from, if I like it? Unless you're talking about hardcore drug addiction, which isn't a joking matter.

I understand you're just being tongue-in-cheek, but this crap isn't funny.

That's like complaining about books not being released at a pace you like and making a post saying "What's with the delays? Are the Paizo writers dealing with terminal cancer?"


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Cyrad wrote:
The only thing I disliked from modules was that I've read many that follow the same trope of stopping a trapped ancient evil from escaping their prison. It's a good trope, but variety keeps my players awake at the table. Or maybe I just had bad luck picking my selection of modules..

In the Reign of Winter AP, the PCs were actually

Spoiler:
trying to free the ancient evil trapped in a prison, so they could prevent a new evil from "destroying" (drastically altering) the world...

That was a twist. Anyway, the AP was almost as much a chance to explore elements of Russian faerie tales and do some Golarion/planet-hopping as a "save the world" plot.


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No Drugs
No Smoking
No Drinking
No Sex
No Meat
Um... something, something Caffeine. (This one is REALLY HARD to kick/avoid).

I'm very grateful that artists (especially musicians) disagree. If there were no drugs, there would be no good music.


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As one of the boards grognards, I need to remind the OP that adventures set outside the standard adventuring world into weird stuff have been part of D&D since it's inception.

Expedition to the Barrier Peaks - 1980 , takes place on alien spaceship. One of the highest rated D&D adventures of all time.
Isle of the Ape 1985- travel to a demiplane which is very similar to Skull island to meet a monster quite a bit like King Kong.

In a very early Dragon magazine there is a adventure pitting the party vs nazis in tanks & such.

There's also the Gygax adventure Dungeonland, set in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

Obviously, D&D, which requires a rich and fertile imagination, is not for the OP. May I suggest a nice game of checkers? Normally I suggest Candyland, but since that does require a suspension of disbelief, it may be too much for his stunted and feeble imagination.


DrDeth wrote:


In a very early Dragon magazine there is a adventure pitting the party vs nazis in tanks & such.

Which issue was this in? I wanna punch Nazis!

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DrDeth wrote:

As one of the boards grognards, I need to remind the OP that adventures set outside the standard adventuring world into weird stuff have been part of D&D since it's inception.

Expedition to the Barrier Peaks - 1980 , takes place on alien spaceship. One of the highest rated D&D adventures of all time.
Isle of the Ape 1985- travel to a demiplane which is very similar to Skull island to meet a monster quite a bit like King Kong.

In a very early Dragon magazine there is a adventure pitting the party vs nazis in tanks & such.

There's also the Gygax adventure Dungeonland, set in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

Obviously, D&D, which requires a rich and fertile imagination, is not for the OP. May I suggest a nice game of checkers? Normally I suggest Candyland, but since that does require a suspension of disbelief, it may be too much for his stunted and feeble imagination.

Those, especially dungeonland, were supposed to be comedies.


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DrDeth wrote:

As one of the boards grognards, I need to remind the OP that adventures set outside the standard adventuring world into weird stuff have been part of D&D since it's inception.

Expedition to the Barrier Peaks - 1980 , takes place on alien spaceship. One of the highest rated D&D adventures of all time.
Isle of the Ape 1985- travel to a demiplane which is very similar to Skull island to meet a monster quite a bit like King Kong.

In a very early Dragon magazine there is a adventure pitting the party vs nazis in tanks & such.

There's also the Gygax adventure Dungeonland, set in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

Obviously, D&D, which requires a rich and fertile imagination, is not for the OP. May I suggest a nice game of checkers? Normally I suggest Candyland, but since that does require a suspension of disbelief, it may be too much for his stunted and feeble imagination.

Second this, aye. I've no beard, but at this point I would pat it proudly. :3

Also, dang, son. Dang! Courtesy is a thing, ya know, son, ya know!

:)

Silver Crusade

Writers taking creative risks? Heaven forbid!


Cyrad wrote:
DrDeth wrote:

As one of the boards grognards, I need to remind the OP that adventures set outside the standard adventuring world into weird stuff have been part of D&D since it's inception.

Expedition to the Barrier Peaks - 1980 , takes place on alien spaceship. One of the highest rated D&D adventures of all time.
Isle of the Ape 1985- travel to a demiplane which is very similar to Skull island to meet a monster quite a bit like King Kong.

In a very early Dragon magazine there is a adventure pitting the party vs nazis in tanks & such.

There's also the Gygax adventure Dungeonland, set in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

Obviously, D&D, which requires a rich and fertile imagination, is not for the OP. May I suggest a nice game of checkers? Normally I suggest Candyland, but since that does require a suspension of disbelief, it may be too much for his stunted and feeble imagination.

Those, especially dungeonland, were supposed to be comedies.

The two Wonderland books, yes. Not Isle of the Ape nor Expedition to the Barrier Peaks.


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I want more of what the OP hates. More WW1, more Nazis, more Pyramids. Seriously, Paizo, keep it coming.

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