paizo.com Recent Posts in Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?paizo.com Recent Posts in Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?2014-03-01T17:08:29Z2014-03-01T17:08:29ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Rikkanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#162014-03-02T08:43:28Z2014-03-02T08:43:28Z<p>It says your weapons gain the bonus, not the weapons you hold or the weapons in your possession. Thus you'd get the bonus when picking up a weapon later, or casting a weapon-like spell later.</p>It says your weapons gain the bonus, not the weapons you hold or the weapons in your possession. Thus you'd get the bonus when picking up a weapon later, or casting a weapon-like spell later.Rikkan2014-03-02T08:43:28ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?FrodoOf9Fingershttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#152014-03-02T03:39:43Z2014-03-02T03:39:43Z<p>He would be, but said game with said GM is a nazi, and the magus slipped and said he was using arcane strike, and then he said he'd pick up the weapon.</p>
<p>I personally interpret it as any weapons you use until the start of your next round makes it simpler. If you have catch arrows, and you caught a dagger and then threw it back immediately, would it get the arcane strike bonuses? It'd be simpler to say yes in my opinion.</p>He would be, but said game with said GM is a nazi, and the magus slipped and said he was using arcane strike, and then he said he'd pick up the weapon.
I personally interpret it as any weapons you use until the start of your next round makes it simpler. If you have catch arrows, and you caught a dagger and then threw it back immediately, would it get the arcane strike bonuses? It'd be simpler to say yes in my opinion.FrodoOf9Fingers2014-03-02T03:39:43ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Paulicushttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#142014-03-02T03:27:59Z2014-03-02T03:27:59Z<p>In that case he'd be better served by simply using arcane strike after picking up the weapon.</p>
<p>Though I only just realized arcane strike says "weapons" and not "weapon."</p>In that case he'd be better served by simply using arcane strike after picking up the weapon.
Though I only just realized arcane strike says "weapons" and not "weapon."Paulicus2014-03-02T03:27:59ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?FrodoOf9Fingershttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#132014-03-02T02:44:04Z2014-03-02T02:44:04Z<p>"As a swift action, you can imbue your weapons with a fraction of your power. For 1 round, your weapons deal +1 damage and are treated as magic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. For every five caster levels you possess, this bonus increases by +1, to a maximum of +5 at 20th level."</p>
<p>Hmm... If a magus uses arcane strike and then picks up a weapon that doesn't belong to him, does he still get the bonus with attacks involving the weapon he just picked up?</p>"As a swift action, you can imbue your weapons with a fraction of your power. For 1 round, your weapons deal +1 damage and are treated as magic for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. For every five caster levels you possess, this bonus increases by +1, to a maximum of +5 at 20th level."
Hmm... If a magus uses arcane strike and then picks up a weapon that doesn't belong to him, does he still get the bonus with attacks involving the weapon he just picked up?FrodoOf9Fingers2014-03-02T02:44:04ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?insaneogeddonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#122014-03-02T01:51:12Z2014-03-02T01:51:12Z<p>Good hope and bard music also add!</p>Good hope and bard music also add!insaneogeddon2014-03-02T01:51:12ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?SlimGaugehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#112014-03-02T01:07:12Z2014-03-02T01:07:12Z<p>I agree with Kazaan</p>I agree with KazaanSlimGauge2014-03-02T01:07:12ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Telshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#102014-03-02T00:43:21Z2014-03-02T00:43:21Z<p>Hmm, my Admixture Wizard might need to pick up Arcane Strike. For the lulz if for nothing else. Shooting a 1d3+8 cantrip at level 10 is kind of funny.</p>Hmm, my Admixture Wizard might need to pick up Arcane Strike. For the lulz if for nothing else. Shooting a 1d3+8 cantrip at level 10 is kind of funny.Tels2014-03-02T00:43:21ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Kazaanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#92014-03-01T19:15:44Z2014-03-01T19:15:44Z<p>Well, working with Acid Splash is a no-go because Acid Splash doesn't create anything that qualifies as a weapon. Rays are weapons, but Missiles of Acid aren't. But even if it <b>were</b> a ray, you spend a swift action to "imbue your weapons". What is there to imbue before you fire the ray? There's no weapon to effect because the weapon "spawns into existence" at the moment you fire it and is gone in an instant. So I'd argue that, even if "Rays and Ray-Like" qualified as weapons, it still wouldn't qualify under Arcane Strike because there's no practical target for the ability. But if there's precedent for Arcane Strike to affect the <b>user</b> directly, then it might be applicable, though for Rays only.</p>Well, working with Acid Splash is a no-go because Acid Splash doesn't create anything that qualifies as a weapon. Rays are weapons, but Missiles of Acid aren't. But even if it were a ray, you spend a swift action to "imbue your weapons". What is there to imbue before you fire the ray? There's no weapon to effect because the weapon "spawns into existence" at the moment you fire it and is gone in an instant. So I'd argue that, even if "Rays and Ray-Like" qualified as weapons, it still wouldn't...Kazaan2014-03-01T19:15:44ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Benrislovehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#82014-03-01T18:30:11Z2014-03-01T18:30:11Z<p>I really wish "ray" wasn't a thing, and the term was "weapon-like spells" IE any spell that requires an attack roll, but shrug.</p>
<p>Acid splash is sketchy, ray of frost works for sure.</p>I really wish "ray" wasn't a thing, and the term was "weapon-like spells" IE any spell that requires an attack roll, but shrug.
Acid splash is sketchy, ray of frost works for sure.Benrislove2014-03-01T18:30:11ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Bigdaddyjughttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#72014-03-01T17:42:16Z2014-03-01T17:42:16Z<p>Ray of Frost would definitely work.</p>
<p>There is some debate as to whether spells like Acid Splash, Acid Arrow, and Snowball count as rays.</p>Ray of Frost would definitely work.
There is some debate as to whether spells like Acid Splash, Acid Arrow, and Snowball count as rays.Bigdaddyjug2014-03-01T17:42:16ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?awp832https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#62014-03-01T17:41:33Z2014-03-01T17:41:33Z<p>yeah, ray of frost should work.</p>yeah, ray of frost should work.awp8322014-03-01T17:41:33ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Magpiedhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#52014-03-01T17:36:36Z2014-03-01T17:36:36Z<p>But the frost cantrip should work?</p>But the frost cantrip should work?Magpied2014-03-01T17:36:36ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?awp832https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#42014-03-01T17:33:54Z2014-03-01T17:33:54Z<p>eeeeeee...... now I'm waffling. I was referring specifically to this FAQ: <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9oag" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rays</a> and this one <a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9nef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rays Again</a>. Upon reading Acid Splash however, Acid Splash is not <i>technically</i> a ray. It is an effect of one missile of acid. How that is different, I don't know, but apparently there is some distinction. </p>
<p>I would certainly allow it, I'd say most GMs would, but technically...... technically... acid splash isn't a ray, the FAQ wouldn't apply.</p>eeeeeee...... now I'm waffling. I was referring specifically to this FAQ: Rays and this one Rays Again. Upon reading Acid Splash however, Acid Splash is not technically a ray. It is an effect of one missile of acid. How that is different, I don't know, but apparently there is some distinction.
I would certainly allow it, I'd say most GMs would, but technically...... technically... acid splash isn't a ray, the FAQ wouldn't apply.awp8322014-03-01T17:33:54ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Magpiedhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#32014-03-01T17:24:17Z2014-03-01T17:24:17Z<p>Which FAQ?</p>Which FAQ?Magpied2014-03-01T17:24:17ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?awp832https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#22014-03-01T17:19:51Z2014-03-01T17:19:51Z<p>Upon reading the FAQ, I'm inclined to say, yes you can.</p>Upon reading the FAQ, I'm inclined to say, yes you can.awp8322014-03-01T17:19:51ZForums: Rules Questions: Can I use arcane strike with acid splash?Magpiedhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqwa?Can-I-use-arcane-strike-with-acid-splash#12014-03-01T17:08:29Z2014-03-01T17:08:29Z<p>Rays are considered weapons, right?</p>Rays are considered weapons, right?Magpied2014-03-01T17:08:29Z