Email sent Mr Nelson!
Also, kinda bummed there won't be a Mythic announcement today :(
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It all looks good Jason! I have one question though. How will this affect all the other nonmythic products you announced earlier in the year?Faerie Mysteries and Unrighteous Villains are currently in layout and should be available within the next week or two.
And, since I've been clearing out all my half-done bits and pieces, I'll finally have the space on my schedule to knock out the rest of the long-delayed Ultimate War.
Now there's some good news! Faerie Mysteries and Ultimate War are definitely the two I've been looking forward to, particularly the latter after seeing the amazing job you did on Ultimate Rulership and Ultimate Battle.
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UPDATE #4 up! Pirates and kickstarters and mythic, OH MY!
Updates aren't always sexy. But you gotta do the work if you wanna get the job done.
Will the last mythic monsters supplement included in the kickstarter hardcover be sea monsters or will there be more published between now and then that are included?
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Will the last mythic monsters supplement included in the kickstarter hardcover be sea monsters or will there be more published between now and then that are included?
There will be more published between now and then that will be included, as well as stuff that has not yet been published that will be included. How it all shakes out will depend on exactly how the Kickstarter goes and how many stretch goals we reach.
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Will the last mythic monsters supplement included in the kickstarter hardcover be sea monsters or will there be more published between now and then that are included?There will be more published between now and then that will be included, as well as stuff that has not yet been published that will be included. How it all shakes out will depend on exactly how the Kickstarter goes and how many stretch goals we reach.I'm hoping for something with humanoids and/or monstrous humanoids, personally. Sure, they can all take class levels and mythic paths, but shouldn't they be able to get their own mythic abilities too? Even humans can get bonus racial hit-dice, after all:)
Humanoids are definitely on the list of upcoming Mythic Monster titles. We have previously announced that our next two release in this line will be Mythic Monsters: Devils. The manuscript is finished and is going through development now, while art is in process with Paizo veteran artist Michael Jaecks!
The next product in this line will be Mythic Monsters: Fairy Tale Creatures, which is still pretty early in the development cycle, and if you listened to our Refresh and Reload podcast, you also heard that we are making plans for additional releases featuring Giants, Humanoid, and... [drumroll]...
This thread might help shine some light on what may or may not be included in the Mythic books, particularly the monster one.
Given the enormity of the web and my ever-decreasing attention span, I may have missed the announcement about when this Kickstarter will open. Has there been an announcement?
Please tell me the Kickstarter is open.
It has to be open…
I think Jason is still a few days out from the official kick-off. He was making some last minute tweaks to the presentation, and I know he indicated he'd be recording a new video for it. Should be soon, though.
WHEN WILL YOU START?!?
Seriously, just take my money here!
I think Jason is still a few days out from the official kick-off. He was making some last minute tweaks to the presentation, and I know he indicated he'd be recording a new video for it. Should be soon, though.
Thanks for the info. I should be able to hold out for a few more days.
I can make it...
I can make it...
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I've finally been able to chat directly with Wolfgang Tuesday night and Owen last night on (and after we finished) the Demiplane of Gaming podcast, so we have the parameters of things pretty well cinched but I need to write up the final contracts and get them all signed and approved. I've already squared things away with Jeremy from DSP. When you're doing a four-way team-up producing three major books... let's just say there are a lot of i's to dot and t's to cross, and we want everything double-plus good and copacetic before we hit the big red button. We are also creating mock-up covers for the books to use in promotion. Sure, our final cover art is certain to be different, and depending on the stretch goals we meet should be something very cool, but it will give backers something more tangible than just a name to latch onto.
At this point, launch day will either be tomorrow (Friday 3/28) or Monday (3/31), depending on how quickly everything moves along.
Patience is a virtue! Or so they tell me...
So this went live, right? I mean, I have money I am dying to spend on this, and the I am seriously looking forward to knowing how much I gotta burn, lol
Also, must promote!
In all seriousness, I am guessing that with the delay, the entire KS will be extended to reflect the later start date?
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Still waiting on getting the final contracts back. The site is ready to go live as soon as the signatures are in.
And yes, we are extending the Kickstarter past our original intended end date of 4/30. It will now run until Monday 5/5/14.
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If you like the Mythic rules for the Pathfinder RPG, this is for you.
If you've been waiting for a group of the leading 3PP companies for Pathfinder to team up and produce something amazing, this is for you.
If you just like fantastic game product by terrific authors, this is for you.
Legendary Games, Kobold Press, Rogue Genius Games, and Dreamscarred Press have teamed up to create the definitive three-book expansion for mythic rules. THE MYTHIC MANIA HAS ARRIVED, so LET'S GO CRAZY!!!
Instabacked.
I was hoping to get in on the monster creation action (Give Birth to a Monster), but it's a bit too rich for my blood. Still, I'll pledge as much as my finances allow. :)
I'm in. The full 3 PDF level. All of my gaming has gone digital these days, and my gaming budget has been limited of late... well limited comparatively... and PDFs are cheaper.
But as I think Mythic is the best thing in Pathfinder since the OGL, I am all over this kickstarter.
Seeing how fast it's moving I can just imaging when the other print books open up and the other pledge levels are added. Deep Magic was amazing in how fast new stuff got added to it, I expect the same here. :D
I also second Changing Man's question. :D
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This really is going to be pretty ground-breaking. You don't get team-ups of this scale in the 3PP business that often. And, I think we're all pretty confident we'll rise to the $15K bonus goal to unlock the hardcovers for all three books. The content alone is bound to really widen your mythic gaming. I know a lot of folks tend to think mythic gaming is for the really high-level play. But, for me, the beauty of the mythic rules is how it can be applied even at lower-level play. So, the more mythic options available, the better, in my opinion.
And, like all supplementary material, it's completely up to the GM how much or how little gets invested into individual campaigns. It's such a useful toolbox, because the GM can keep all these toys to himself to widen and enhance the possibilities of monsters, spells, and abilities. Or, he can also make some of it available to his players' characters, choosing when and where to layer on a mythic tier or provide access to a mythic spell or feat.
Taken together, these books promise to serve up a broad array of possibilities across every element of the game where mythic can introduce something new to your game...i.e., stuff which even long-term, experienced players won't be able to anticipate. So, personally, I think it's well worth the investment. It should really broaden the possibilities at your gaming table. Hopefully, like-minded folks come out to support us in a big way. And, additionally, by doing so, you can also incent more 3PP team-ups like this in the future.
But that's just my two cents,
--Neil
I wonder if you could contact Radiance House Games about collaboration on mythic pact magic... ^.^
Over 75% funded in the first few hours. That puts us well on our way toward the first hardcover book. And 36 more days to pursue the others. Keep spreading the word. We've got 44 backers so far, and as soon as we unlock the higher bonus levels for the additional print books, I expect a lot of folks to up their pledge even higher. That will allow even more content to be created for each book. So, keep checking in to see how things are progressing.
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Looking forward to this! Finally getting it posted on the Dreamscarred sites, as I've been at a convention all weekend.
The softcover print copy of the Mythic Spell Compendium and PDFs for the Mythic Monster Manual and Mythic Hero's Handbook are fully funded in under 24 hours and we're now winging our way towards the first bonus goal. Less than $500 will see us to Heroes Unplugged: a system for mythic heroes to invest more of the standard bonuses, benefits, and rewards in themselves rather than their gear, including a system of mythic skills.
Additionally, we're over a third of the way to the bonus goal which will see all three books in print. And we're about an eighth of the way to seeing all three books as hardcovers (along with every bonus goal we've established so far). So, keep spreading the word. We'd like to see this thing climb even higher.
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...AND initial funding is achieved.(within the first 24 hours, unless I am mistaken) Onward, upward, to the Mythic Realms above!
Just over 12 hours actually! Check out the latest update on our Kickstarter page!
I'm curious about the Mythic uses of skills in the Hero's Handbook- will that kind of thing apply to all skills?
(My daughter wants to do some Mythic stunts with her Profession:Cook Monk; just the idea of doing something mythically astounding with a wooden spoon seems oddly appealing)
Mythic skills was an area we thought could be a lot of fun to expand, especially for classes for whom skills are supposed to be a big deal. Hey, why should feats and spells have all the fun?
Not sure what Jason has in mind officially, but I emailed him a suggestion for Mythic Skills which was based off of one spending a Mythic Power point after a successful skill check.
You would only be able to do this for a specific number of skills per Path and the results would range from being able to automatically identify a magic item via Appraise to an Air Walk effect for Climb.
I figure this would be a simple, easy to implement system that I feel meshes well with the current system.
I wonder if you could contact Radiance House Games about collaboration on mythic pact magic... ^.^I wonder sometimes if you guys are trying to work us to death! :)
Well here's another idea to make you wonder even more: Mythic Kingdoms. :)
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I just backed. I even added a little bit extra on top of the highest PDF option just because I hope this thing succeeds very well, and not from any of the extra options so far. It's at least tied for the most I have backed a kickstarter for yet.
If this does happen to do well enough to get more physical books in print I plan to get all the physical ones that make it and add even more to my pledge.
Awesome! Many thanks, and others can certainly follow your lead. The other pledges will be coming as soon as we hit the total funding to unlock them, but you can always "pledge ahead" in anticipation of the levels to come!
I wanted to back your kickstarter but now there is no chance. I backed your Gothic Horror kickstarter. I have not received my book from the kickstarter but the book is now available to buy and in stock from Paizo and with the 15% discount it is cheaper. If you are not going to get the book to your supporters first why should I support you. You have no loyality to your supporters so I will have no loyality to you either. I really expected better from Legendary Games.
I wanted to back your kickstarter but now there is no chance. I backed your Gothic Horror kickstarter. I have not received my book from the kickstarter but the book is now available to buy and in stock from Paizo and with the 15% discount it is cheaper. If you are not going to get the book to your supporters first why should I support you. You have no loyality to your supporters so I will have no loyality to you either. I really expected better from Legendary Games.
It's my understanding that print copies have been shipped to Kickstarter backers. Assuming that that is indeed the case, I really don't see how Legendary Games are being illoyal.
As for the price tag, the 15% discount is an odd thing to include in your argument, I think, as that discount is a result of you being an adventure path subscriber. It's a unique circumstance for subscribers of Paizo's adventure paths. There's nothing Legendary Games can do about that discount and it's unlikely, I reckon, that they'd be able to do something similar and still make a profit on the book.
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My apologies you did not get your book yet. We did send out the PDFs created through this Kickstarter several months before they were available anywhere else, and the first shipment of our books has been mailed while the rest are getting boxed up and sent as fast as I can get through them; if you give me your name I can check and see if yours was on that list. With just me packing and shipping books, it's taking longer than expected to get them out the door.
Today my wife dropped off 13 cases of books at Paizo. Given that this is my first time fulfilling a major print order and they do it every day, it is no surprise that their warehouse staff is far more efficient than I am, so they're already ready to go as I'm still making my way through the pile. It's not a matter of loyalty but of manpower.
I infer that by loyalty you would rather I made sure all of ours were shipped first, however long it took, before delivering the books to Paizo. That's a fair point, and one I can certainly take into account in the future. I appreciate the feedback. This would not be the only mistake I've made during the course of this Kickstarter.
If you are interested in the current Kickstarter being run concurrently by us, Kobold Press, Rogue Genius Games, and Dreamscarred Press, I'd encourage you to give it a look. Hopefully one mistake doesn't sour you entirely, but either way God bless and happy gaming to you.
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I wanted to back your kickstarter but now there is no chance. I backed your Gothic Horror kickstarter. I have not received my book from the kickstarter but the book is now available to buy and in stock from Paizo and with the 15% discount it is cheaper. If you are not going to get the book to your supporters first why should I support you. You have no loyality to your supporters so I will have no loyality to you either. I really expected better from Legendary Games.It's my understanding that print copies have been shipped to Kickstarter backers. Assuming that that is indeed the case, I really don't see how Legendary Games are being illoyal.
As for the price tag, the 15% discount is an odd thing to include in your argument, I think, as that discount is a result of you being an adventure path subscriber. It's a unique circumstance for subscribers of Paizo's adventure paths. There's nothing Legendary Games can do about that discount and it's unlikely, I reckon, that they'd be able to do something similar and still make a profit on the book.
I was not aware of Paizo offering a discount on the book, but Heine is correct that that's not something we have any influence over, no more than when Amazon.com discounts our products.
I presume PathfinderFan64 means the Pathfinder Advantage discount. I agree though - larger retailers are always going to be able to undercut you, even as the publisher. You can't match their efficiency at packaging lots of orders. As long as you dont sell them cheaper once the kickstarter is over, I can't see any foul.
My apologies you did not get your book yet. We did send out the PDFs created through this Kickstarter several months before they were available anywhere else, and the first shipment of our books has been mailed while the rest are getting boxed up and sent as fast as I can get through them; if you give me your name I can check and see if yours was on that list. With just me packing and shipping books, it's taking longer than expected to get them out the door.
Today my wife dropped off 13 cases of books at Paizo. Given that this is my first time fulfilling a major print order and they do it every day, it is no surprise that their warehouse staff is far more efficient than I am, so they're already ready to go as I'm still making my way through the pile. It's not a matter of loyalty but of manpower.
I infer that by loyalty you would rather I made sure all of ours were shipped first, however long it took, before delivering the books to Paizo. That's a fair point, and one I can certainly take into account in the future. I appreciate the feedback. This would not be the only mistake I've made during the course of this Kickstarter.
If you are interested in the current Kickstarter being run concurrently by us, Kobold Press, Rogue Genius Games, and Dreamscarred Press, I'd encourage you to give it a look. Hopefully one mistake doesn't sour you entirely, but either way God bless and happy gaming to you.
I didn't order the pdf's since I had already bought all the individual pdf's as they were released. I am a big fan of your work and company but I am tired of backing kickstarters and being the last to get the product. I didn't want to ever back another kickstarter but since I had such respect for your products and company I thought things would be different. I was very upset today to see your book in stock and ready to ship from Paizo before the backers receive the book. Sorry if others think that is ok but to me it is not right.
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As somebody who has backed 13 Kickstarters, I'm quite familiar with the various difficulties, pit falls, and other things can slow a company getting their product out in a timely manner. Any number of things can happen, including stuff that they have no control over.
Just out of curiosity, PFFan, are you an overseas costumer? Every KS I've backed has always mentioned international orders usually take a longer time to complete.
Also, did you read Jason's post where he said it was him and him alone that handles packing and sending out the Legendary books? I understand being a little upset, but its kinda silly to flat out refuse to back a KS because of that.
Finally, I personally do not see Havoc's comment as a personal attack. He didn't call you any names nor was "jerky", which is what the part on the bottom of the page. He just pointed out that you seem to only post to to inform a company you'll no longer support them.
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I didn't order the pdf's since I had already bought all the individual pdf's as they were released. I am a big fan of your work and company but I am tired of backing kickstarters and being the last to get the product. I didn't want to ever back another kickstarter but since I had such respect for your products and company I thought things would be different. I was very upset today to see your book in stock and ready to ship from Paizo before the backers receive the book. Sorry if others think that is ok but to me it is not right.My apologies you did not get your book yet. We did send out the PDFs created through this Kickstarter several months before they were available anywhere else, and the first shipment of our books has been mailed while the rest are getting boxed up and sent as fast as I can get through them; if you give me your name I can check and see if yours was on that list. With just me packing and shipping books, it's taking longer than expected to get them out the door.
Today my wife dropped off 13 cases of books at Paizo. Given that this is my first time fulfilling a major print order and they do it every day, it is no surprise that their warehouse staff is far more efficient than I am, so they're already ready to go as I'm still making my way through the pile. It's not a matter of loyalty but of manpower.
I infer that by loyalty you would rather I made sure all of ours were shipped first, however long it took, before delivering the books to Paizo. That's a fair point, and one I can certainly take into account in the future. I appreciate the feedback. This would not be the only mistake I've made during the course of this Kickstarter.
If you are interested in the current Kickstarter being run concurrently by us, Kobold Press, Rogue Genius Games, and Dreamscarred Press, I'd encourage you to give it a look. Hopefully one mistake doesn't sour you entirely, but either way God bless and happy gaming to you.
It does sound as if you've had some unfortunate history with Kickstarters. I figured it would take some time to process the load I dropped off and that I'd have things mailed out before they went live, but the Paizo warehouse do their jobs far too well. Meanwhile, I picked up another pile of stamps and mailers tonight and continue the packing adventure.
I'd be happy to send you a free PDF of the Gothic compilation to tide you over while you wait for your book to arrive. It does clean up some errors in the original PDFs and also compiles all of the spells, feats, monsters, etc. by section, so it may be of use to you even if you already have every separate product in it. Drop an email to makeyourgamelegendary at gmail dot com and we'll hook you up.
P.S. The product thread for the Gothic Campaign Compendium is probably a better place to continue this discussion if you wish to do so.