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The resonant property gives you continual protection from evil when you slot it into a wayfinder. It's in Seeker of Secrets I think.The clear spindle sustains you without food or water... how is that supposed to help against mental attacks?
I've been running in to suggestion, confusion, domination, magic jar (shadow demons are getting pretty common). Good protections against these would be nice for my fighter.As far as special weapon types go, IMO it's common knowledge that silver and cold iron weapons are needed to hurt some monsters. It takes a knowledge check to know specifically what hurts what.
Ahh, thanks. I didn't think to look at the wayfinder resonance. My fighter already has a pink rhomboid in her wayfinder, might be worth swapping out I suppose. Anyone know other items that give protection evil?
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Ahh, thanks. I didn't think to look at the wayfinder resonance. My fighter already has a pink rhomboid in her wayfinder, might be worth swapping out I suppose. Anyone know other items that give protection evil?The resonant property gives you continual protection from evil when you slot it into a wayfinder. It's in Seeker of Secrets I think.The clear spindle sustains you without food or water... how is that supposed to help against mental attacks?
I've been running in to suggestion, confusion, domination, magic jar (shadow demons are getting pretty common). Good protections against these would be nice for my fighter.As far as special weapon types go, IMO it's common knowledge that silver and cold iron weapons are needed to hurt some monsters. It takes a knowledge check to know specifically what hurts what.
Shining Wayfinder (Silver Crusade prestige award) lets you use it once per day.
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As the Morphling said, the Shining Wayfinder gives the full spell Prot Evil once per day. The resonance power is not all of Prot Evil, just the part giving you "protection against possession and mental control" from evil creatures. Make sure you are aware of the two FAQ entries that list some of the charm/compulsion spells you're not protected against.
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As the Morphling said, the Shining Wayfinder gives the full spell Prot Evil once per day. The resonance power is not all of Prot Evil, just the part giving you "protection against possession and mental control" from evil creatures. Make sure you are aware of the two FAQ entries that lists some of the charm/compulsion spells you're not protected against.
And with any flavor of Protection from Evil, expect table variation when it comes to Harpy songs.
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The scenario you're thinking of where the npcs tells you that you should use alchemists fire on swarms is The Confirmation I think. If I were GMing and you showed me the Chronicle sheet after asserting that you know that i'd be satisfied because I know that it happens.
Damalon01,
I've been following your assertions, and I must ask: what right has a table GM to be satisfied or not, as to whether in a character's past, he or she has spoken to a colleague about silvered weapons and, say, werewolves?
The Knowledge skill allows a character to identify the monsters in the field. Most every Pathfinder agent knows that, say, devils are resistant to damage, but that can be bypassed. (Lesser ddevils, with silver or good-aligned weapons, tougher creatures might shrug off damage unless the weapon is both silver and good-aligned.) Devils are immune to fire and poison.
That's why, once a character correctly identifies a monster, the first thing she gets is the creature's item type and subtype, including all the information common to all of that sort of monster. Once you realize "hey, that insect-looking blue thing is a devil" all the previous information about devils that everybody learned in Pathfiner Academy automatically kicks in.
Your suggestions would imply that very bright fighters, with limited skill ranks, would be ignoring most of their training for their three years of study. Same with sorcerers. I disagree.
But more fundamentally, your words come across as if you think that table judges have some right to criticise a player for prudent purchases or wise play. Metagaming, as I understand the term is acting on out-of-game information that there is a gibbering mouther coming up in this particular scenario and preparing countermeasures that you normally ignore. That's different from knowing that gibbering mouthers exist and buying a vial of oil of grease just in case.
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What's the DC to know that the skeleton you're fighting has DR/bludgeoning? What's the DC to know that something in the universe somewhere might be easier to break than to cut and so it might be a good idea to have a blunt instrument handy?
What's the DC to know that the babau you're fighting has DR/cold iron? What's the DC to know that the reason every weapon shop in every good-size city has racks of cold iron weapons is because there might be something out there that's easier to defend yourself from with such things?
What's the DC to know that an otyugh has grab on its tentacles? What's the DC to know that somewhere in the universe there might exist a creature that will try to grab hold of you and being able to become slippery might be useful?
What's the DC to know that a spider swarm takes extra damage from an AoE? What's the DC to know that rolling a 3-foot sphere of flame through a carpet of bugs is gonna mess their s&%* up?
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Look, even an INT 5 nagaji paladin can ID a goblin by taking 10 on an untrained Knowledge (local) check. Things that aren't even specific to a particular creature would be even easier (and a between-scenarios shopping trip is definitely the type of situation where you could Take 10 on all your Knowledge checks). Basic, categorical preparations are fully justifiable in-character.
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Something that lets you see invisible targets. It'll come in handy, I promise.
Has anyone come up with a good solution for this for non-magic-users? A fighter can't buy a potion of see invisibility or potion of invisibility purge because they are personal spells and personal spells can not be made into potions or oils. The best thing I can think of for a fighter is to hope the caster has those spells available or put a lot of money into a magic item that grants see invisibility (the cheapest is probably 100 000+ gp). I guess there's good ol' chalk but your time is probably better spent just hacking at the air.
Has anyone come up with a good solution for this for non-magic-users? A fighter can't buy a potion of see invisibility or potion of invisibility purge because they are personal spells and personal spells can not be made into potions or oils. The best thing I can think of for a fighter is to hope the caster has those spells available or put a lot of money into a magic item that grants see invisibility (the cheapest is probably 100 000+ gp). I guess there's good ol' chalk but your time is probably better spent just hacking at the air.
Something that lets you see invisible targets. It'll come in handy, I promise.
Bags of powder?
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Has anyone come up with a good solution for this for non-magic-users? A fighter can't buy a potion of see invisibility or potion of invisibility purge because they are personal spells and personal spells can not be made into potions or oils. The best thing I can think of for a fighter is to hope the caster has those spells available or put a lot of money into a magic item that grants see invisibility (the cheapest is probably 100 000+ gp). I guess there's good ol' chalk but your time is probably better spent just hacking at the air.
Something that lets you see invisible targets. It'll come in handy, I promise.
You can still carry scrolls of those spells for the casters to use. Bags of powder would help, and Blind-Fight, if you can afford the feat.
If anyone is the group can see invisibility, then bags of powder work well.
If not, then even misses from bags of powder leave a film on the ground that will show footprints, to help with the aiming of the next bag.
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Has anyone come up with a good solution for this for non-magic-users? A fighter can't buy a potion of see invisibility or potion of invisibility purge because they are personal spells and personal spells can not be made into potions or oils. The best thing I can think of for a fighter is to hope the caster has those spells available or put a lot of money into a magic item that grants see invisibility (the cheapest is probably 100 000+ gp). I guess there's good ol' chalk but your time is probably better spent just hacking at the air.
Something that lets you see invisible targets. It'll come in handy, I promise.
Spectral Shroud, 26,000gp (constant See Invisibility).
Hand of Glory, 8000gp (See Invisibility 1/day, CL 5)Lenses of Situational Sight, 5000gp(See Invis, 10min in 1min chunks, can also grant Darkvision)
I'd go with the lenses.
EDIT:
Scratch that, the lenses lose their power after the 10 min is used up. Hand of Glory?
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Lenses of Situational Sight, 5000gp(See Invis, 10min in 1min chunks, can also grant Darkvision)
I'd go with the lenses.
EDIT:
Scratch that, the lenses lose their power after the 10 min is used up.
Would you pay 500gp for a 1min elixir of see invisibility? Considering the slot alternatives, I'd say it's still a contender.
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If anyone is the group can see invisibility, then bags of powder work well.
If not, then even misses from bags of powder leave a film on the ground that will show footprints, to help with the aiming of the next bag.
So long as the invisible enemy isn't flying, use Create Water to form pools of water that will spread out, then look for the displaced footprints or the splashes and ripples as they move around.
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So long as the invisible enemy isn't flying, use Create Water to form pools of water that will spread out, then look for the displaced footprints or the splashes and ripples as they move around.If anyone is the group can see invisibility, then bags of powder work well.
If not, then even misses from bags of powder leave a film on the ground that will show footprints, to help with the aiming of the next bag.
[jaded]"You're trying to completely negate a 2nd-level spell with a cantrip! That cheese won't fly at MY table!"[/jaded]
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Would you pay 500gp for a 1min elixir of see invisibility? Considering the slot alternatives, I'd say it's still a contender.Lenses of Situational Sight, 5000gp(See Invis, 10min in 1min chunks, can also grant Darkvision)
I'd go with the lenses.
EDIT:
Scratch that, the lenses lose their power after the 10 min is used up.
Fair point.
5000gp for 10 min of Detect magic, 10 min of See Invisibility, 10 min of Darkvision
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10 x 300gp (potion of Darkvision)
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10 x 300gp (potion of See Invisibility, if such a thing existed)
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6000gp
You get far less in terms of duration (1 min vs. 3 hours/30 min). But you get it on demand, and in the case of See Invisibility, you get it at all.
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On seeing invisibility for non spell casters, my gunslinger just bought one of these but it is a bit expensive at 8000 gp
A Wayfinders of revelation show a more ornate design than ordinary wayfinders, and are crafted of gold-accented silver. A wayfinder of revelation’s light effect is double the normal effect of a light spell, illuminating an area twice as large. Once per day as a standard action, while a wayfinder of revelation is creating light, you can fill this 40-foot radius of light with an invisibility purge effect (as per the spell). This effect also makes it easier to notice secret doors and hidden compartments—characters who search for such hidden objects and portals inside this area gain a +10 bonus on their Perception checks to do so. Once activated, this effect remains active for 6 rounds.
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[jaded]"You're trying to completely negate a 2nd-level spell with a cantrip! That cheese won't fly at MY table!"[/jaded]So long as the invisible enemy isn't flying, use Create Water to form pools of water that will spread out, then look for the displaced footprints or the splashes and ripples as they move around.If anyone is the group can see invisibility, then bags of powder work well.
If not, then even misses from bags of powder leave a film on the ground that will show footprints, to help with the aiming of the next bag.
[what I'd say]"You're trying to find a creative work around for this problem. Good job!"[/what I'd say]
This phrase in the description of invisibility may be valuable to remember in these circumstances as well.
"Of course, the subject is not magically silenced, and certain other conditions can render the recipient detectable (such as swimming in water or stepping in a puddle)."
Especially if you're finding resistance when creating water, or otherwise trying to creatively defeat an invisible creature.
Also let's not forget that as a move action, you can always make a Perception check and try and locate the enemy's location via sound. Chances are they didn't make a Stealth check and you'll easily be able to hear where they went. The listed DC to hear a creature walking is 10, which invisibility expressly does not help with.
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just play the confirmation
it will prepare you for about three-quarters of the things you should know from there on out
and by 'prepare you' I mean that it will mercilessly beat your face until you understand how to avoid and/or conquer future face beatings
EDIT: omg first star
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@Walter - Sounds great, if I'm at your table. But you should have heard the gnashing of teeth when someone suggested that hey, if you cast detect magic, and there's an invisible creature within the cone, and they hold still for 3 rounds of concentration, and you make the skill check to identify the aura as being illusion, then you *might* be able to infer that there's an invisible creature there!
"Completely negate a 2nd-level spell" is the phrase that was used. :/
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@Walter - Sounds great, if I'm at your table. But you should have heard the gnashing of teeth when someone suggested that hey, if you cast detect magic, and there's an invisible creature within the cone, and they hold still for 3 rounds of concentration, and you make the skill check to identify the aura as being illusion, then you *might* be able to infer that there's an invisible creature there!
"Completely negate a 2nd-level spell" is the phrase that was used. :/
Personal philosophy: We're all at different levels of mastery about this complicated system. I think that there's something everyone who plays this game can teach me about it, and it's irresponsible as a GM to ignore comments that challenge my understanding of the game.
I'd encourage you to continue correcting GMs and players when you see them make mistakes, but do so with a nod of respect, because at one point, you were just as uninformed as they are.
Although, if those people are unwilling to listen there's not much you can do aside from choose a different table to sit at in the future or speak with the event organizer.
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You can still carry scrolls of those spells for the casters to use. Bags of powder would help, and Blind-Fight, if you can afford the feat.
True, but again because they are personal spells. Something like see invisibility would only help the caster see. A scroll of invisibility purge would work fine though but again the fighter has to rely on the caster.
Lots of other good suggestions for items though.
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actually there are rules when dealing with invisible creatures whom are submerged, and if the water is deep enough or spreads out to squares where the creature is located. there should be a chance to identify which square the creature is located. This will not give the players a attack, the creature would get the 50% miss chance.
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In other news, I forgot how amazing Blind-Fight is.
- Not flatfooted to invisible foes. So no sneak attack from invisible enemies. Equivalent to Uncanny Dodge.
- Move full speed without Acrobatics check while blinded.
- Reroll miss chance once on creatures with concealment.
- Easily negates mirror image by closing your eyes when attacking and taking the 50% miss chance (that you get to reroll once) over the much higher miss chance from multiple images
That's a lot of awesome for one feat that has zero prerequisites.
Improved Blind-Fight isn't too shabby either, as it negates concealment entirely. Allowing you to sneak attack foes with blur and displacement (because the latter isn't actually total concealment!). Not as great, but still pretty awesome for some folks.
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actually there are rules when dealing with invisible creatures whom are submerged, and if the water is deep enough or spreads out to squares where the creature is located. there should be a chance to identify which square the creature is located. This will not give the players a attack, the creature would get the 50% miss chance.
It's actually covered in the description of the spell.
"Of course, the subject is not magically silenced, and certain other conditions can render the recipient detectable (such as swimming in water or stepping in a puddle)."
It's up to your GM to adjudicate exactly how this unfolds in game terms, but it's pretty clear that swimming invisible creatures can be easily detected.
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- Easily negates mirror image by closing your eyes when attacking and taking the 50% miss chance (that you get to reroll once) over the much higher miss chance from multiple images
Oh, did you miss that thread too? Another fun one. ;)
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It's up to your GM to adjudicate exactly how this unfolds in game terms, but it's pretty clear that swimming invisible creatures can be easily detected.
Actually, there are explicit rules for a fully-submerged invisible creature:
An invisible creature in the water displaces water, revealing its location. The invisible creature, however, is still hard to see and benefits from concealment.
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In other news, I forgot how amazing Blind-Fight is.
- Not flatfooted to invisible foes. So no sneak attack from invisible enemies. Equivalent to Uncanny Dodge.
- Move full speed without Acrobatics check while blinded.
- Reroll miss chance once on creatures with concealment.
- Easily negates mirror image by closing your eyes when attacking and taking the 50% miss chance (that you get to reroll once) over the much higher miss chance from multiple imagesThat's a lot of awesome for one feat that has zero prerequisites.
Improved Blind-Fight isn't too shabby either, as it negates concealment entirely. Allowing you to sneak attack foes with blur and displacement (because the latter isn't actually total concealment!). Not as great, but still pretty awesome for some folks.
That's one of the reasons I now prefer the Incandescent Blue Sphere Ioun Stone to the Clear Spindle.
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It's up to your GM to adjudicate exactly how this unfolds in game terms, but it's pretty clear that swimming invisible creatures can be easily detected.Actually, there are explicit rules for a fully-submerged invisible creature:
An invisible creature in the water displaces water, revealing its location. The invisible creature, however, is still hard to see and benefits from concealment.
Awesome. Learning even now :)
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IDK if it's been brought up, but PROTIP: a stunstone acts like a combined 10-foot radius faerie fire and sound burst. At 350 gp, it's great for dealing with invisible, blurred, or displaced bad guys. And anybody can use it.
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IDK if it's been brought up, but a stunstone acts like a combined 10-foot radius faerie fire and [/i]sound burst[/i]. At 350 gp, it's great for dealing with invisible, blurred, or displaced bad guys. And anybody can use it.
*jawdrop*
I think I might have to buy that PDF just for that one item.
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IDK if it's been brought up, but PROTIP: a stunstone acts like a combined 10-foot radius faerie fire and sound burst. At 350 gp, it's great for dealing with invisible, blurred, or displaced bad guys. And anybody can use it.
That is downright awesome. Way to go with the excellent suggestion!
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IDK if it's been brought up, but PROTIP: a stunstone acts like a combined 10-foot radius faerie fire and sound burst. At 350 gp, it's great for dealing with invisible, blurred, or displaced bad guys. And anybody can use it.
And now I've learned Herolab doesn't default in the APs. I am enlightened. Thank you.