Paladin level 10 pegasus mount


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Hey all im a dm and im building a world and im having trouble with some of the rules regarding mounts.

i have a group of paladins that at level ten get a pegasus as a mount.

now i vaguly remember a rule in 3.5 where if you took a pegasus as a mount it had to be a certain amount of levels below your normal mount to make up for the extra abilities.
the problem is i cant seem to find this any where in the pathfinder books or rules for mounts except the rules stated in the core rulebook under druids.

if any one knows the rules could they please make me a pegasus mount for a 10th level paladin and post it up on here thanks.


(Level 5) Divine Bond: 2nd option = mount. Pegasus is not one of the standard options, but Roc is. I will look into are 'there ways of expanding the choices?'


Pegasus is not a valid option for a Paladin mount under normal rules.

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The second type of bond allows a paladin to gain the service of an unusually intelligent, strong, and loyal steed to serve her in her crusade against evil. This mount is usually a heavy horse (for a Medium paladin) or a pony (for a Small paladin), although more exotic mounts, such as a boar, camel, or dog are also suitable. This mount functions as a druid's animal companion, using the paladin's level as her effective druid level. Bonded mounts have an Intelligence of at least 6.

Once per day, as a full-round action, a paladin may magically call her mount to her side. This ability is the equivalent of a spell of a level equal to one-third the paladin's level. The mount immediately appears adjacent to the paladin. A paladin can use this ability once per day at 5th level, and one additional time per day for every 4 levels thereafter, for a total of four times per day at 17th level.

At 11th level, the mount gains the celestial template and becomes a magical beast for the purposes of determining which spells affect it. At 15th level, a paladin's mount gains spell resistance equal to the paladin's level + 11.

Should the paladin's mount die, the paladin may not summon another mount for 30 days or until she gains a paladin level, whichever comes first. During this 30-day period, the paladin takes a –1 penalty on attack and weapon damage rolls.

Now, as a GM you can expand the list of suitable mounts. But please note there is a large difference between a horse animal companion and a pegasus as stated in the bestiary. I would tell the player that he gets a horse animal companion and that it can have it appear as a pegasus, but he doesn't get the benefits of a pegasus. If he would like to take Leadership to get a monstrous cohort and pick up a pegasus that is a different story. But he can't choose pegasus as his mount.

Edit: It's also important to note that animal companions have their own statistics separate from entries as listed in the bestiary. If you look up horse there are stats for a horse as a regular combatant. If you go to the druid animal companion list it tells you all the statistics a horse companion gets. And then in the druid entry it also tells you how to advance the horse as you gain levels.


yeah i understand all that but in the d&d 3.5 rules there was a level adjustment rule that let you you get a pegasus as a mount

its in the dungeons masters guide page 204 and 205

im just wondering if there was any similar rules in pathfinder or would i have to just do a jury rig build of a custom pegasus as paladin mount and have it as a few levels lower on the mount table then a normal mount

so if my level ten paladin wanted a pegasus instead of it being level ten on the animal companion table could i say make it level 6 and if it was level 6 would it then become celestial when the paladin got to level 11 or when the pegasus got to level 11 which would be paladin level 15

Shadow Lodge

I see two options for your Paladins:

1. Use the Empyreal Knight archetype from Ultimate combat. While not strictly Pegaci they do have celestial winged horsed by level 12.

5. Have all your Paladins take a weapon as a divine bond and a Pegasuses via leadership at level 7.


swalcliffe wrote:

yeah i understand all that but in the d&d 3.5 rules there was a level adjustment rule that let you you get a pegasus as a mount

its in the dungeons masters guide page 204 and 205

im just wondering if there was any similar rules in pathfinder or would i have to just do a jury rig build of a custom pegasus as paladin mount and have it as a few levels lower on the mount table then a normal mount

so if my level ten paladin wanted a pegasus instead of it being level ten on the animal companion table could i say make it level 6 and if it was level 6 would it then become celestial when the paladin got to level 11 or when the pegasus got to level 11 which would be paladin level 15

Yeah, Pathfinder got rid of level adjustments from the game. The rules were bad. They didn't work well in terms of balance.

I would simply ask you player to take the weapon divine bond and leadership when at level 7. If you player has a leadership score of 9 (likely) then he should be able to get the pegasus as his cohort.

Monstrous Cohort Rules

Sovereign Court

Consider modifying the Hippogriff mount that Sable Marine's get. Link


ok dont worry about it as its not a player its a group of ncps the players interect with.
i just wanted to know how the players would go about getting a pegasus or an unusal mount as one of them is playing a druid and they all asking how the paladins got there mounts as pegasus as my druid wants a hippogriff. and it a bit late to change the whole game now as they have known about the pegasus knights since the start of the campaign.

i think i may just do level adjustment from 3.5 if pathfinder hasnt got an equilavent and but just scale it back a bit.

Grand Lodge

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swalcliffe wrote:

Hey all im a dm and im building a world and im having trouble with some of the rules regarding mounts.

i have a group of paladins that at level ten get a pegasus as a mount.

now i vaguly remember a rule in 3.5 where if you took a pegasus as a mount it had to be a certain amount of levels below your normal mount to make up for the extra abilities.
the problem is i cant seem to find this any where in the pathfinder books or rules for mounts except the rules stated in the core rulebook under druids.

if any one knows the rules could they please make me a pegasus mount for a 10th level paladin and post it up on here thanks.

There isn't any such rule. You get to be the fun part of being a DM... Making up a rule for your own use. If the player is taking a pegasus as his/her divinely bonded mount all you need to do is put an appropriate penalty on her class levels to determine the buffs it gets. There is a Ultimate magic paladin archetype that forgoes some paladin goodies and one of the things it gets in trade is wings for himself and his mount as well as the celestial template for both.

Silver Crusade

In the book Knights of the Inner Sea, I believe, there is a table with monsters as cohorts for the leadership feat. A pegasus is included in there. I don't have the book with me, or I'd post about it.


Thanks every one but im just gonna make the pegasus 4 levels lower and make it so that it gets the celestial template when it reaches level 11 not the paladin. This way the pegasus wont become celestial until the paladin is level 15. I think that should help balance it out correctly. and come on what 10 level charcter cant already fly so having a horse that can wont make much difference overall. Wizards can learn the spell fly at level 5 so yeah i think it should be ok.
But thanks alot for eveyones input.

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