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...you have two GMs signed up to run that night--and enough players show up to need two tables--but only one of them can legally play the older mod that the second GM prepped.

(Happened to us this week. Thankfully, a solution agreeable to everyone was found.)

Grand Lodge 2/5

Tim Emrick wrote:

...you have two GMs signed up to run that night--and enough players show up to need two tables--but only one of them can legally play the older mod that the second GM prepped.

(Happened to us this week. Thankfully, a solution agreeable to everyone was found.)

...and that's why you post the scenarios in advance so that the people signing up and the people running know what's going on in advance.

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... The GM announces that since it's Easter, the scenario will almost certainly require a raise dead.

Sovereign Court 4/5

Tim Emrick wrote:

...you have two GMs signed up to run that night--and enough players show up to need two tables--but only one of them can legally play the older mod that the second GM prepped.

(Happened to us this week. Thankfully, a solution agreeable to everyone was found.)

Ever-green

Running out of chronicles
Oh they can't play
Don't want to chase them away
Time to GM Wounded Wisp again

Wisp again

5/5 5/55/55/5

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claudekennilol wrote:


...and that's why you post the scenarios in advance so that the people signing up and the people running know what's going on in advance.

Thats really not a solution. A table collapsing unexpectedly isn't something you can really avoid, and having TWO tables everyone can play at is taking geek soduku into three dimensions. (yay star recharges)

4/5

the GM has an AD&D DM screen and Cardboard Heroes from 1985 for figurines...


...the samurai is the one making all the knowledge arcane checks in a party of casters.

...the bloodrager has a heal of +10 at level 3.

Grand Lodge 2/5

BigNorseWolf wrote:
claudekennilol wrote:


...and that's why you post the scenarios in advance so that the people signing up and the people running know what's going on in advance.

Thats really not a solution. A table collapsing unexpectedly isn't something you can really avoid, and having TWO tables everyone can play at is taking geek soduku into three dimensions. (yay star recharges)

It doesn't sound like it was unexpected. From the limited info we got from the table, it sounds like a GM showed up with a scenario prepped and players showed up to play not knowing what the GM prepped. It sounds like this could have been easily avoided with even the tiniest amount of communication on anyone's part. Not planning in advance does no one a service.

And this comment is why I almost included "and please don't response about something regarding 'geek soduko'", but I thought that would be too tongue-in-cheek.

1/5 5/5

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Evergreens are NOT always an answer.

I could easily see a group of new Pathfinder players all showing up to play with two GMs that have been prepping say, The Confirmation and the group being new... but having run that one already.

Now you have the above mentioned situation, and hopefully someone has either First Steps, Consortium Compact, Wounded Wisp, ES1, GoM, or something else handy and prepped if one is going the 'evergreen' route.

Other things you know you're in trouble for:

When you sit down to the table as a GM and the players engage you in discussion over some of the complex rules mechanics involved in a given scenario and... you forget to pull out your dice for half the scenario and the players are giving you theirs because they don't want to stop the mechanics explanation.

Silver Crusade 4/5

Scott Howland wrote:
You're a table of 8s and 11s and the 11s all want to play down.

Or worse: the 8s all want to play up. And it's a season 4 adventure.

Back when we could choose to play up or down, I had a table like that once. I think the levels were 7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, so we had our choice. It was a season 4 scenario. I was the level 8, and I voted to play down, but everyone else wanted to play up, especially egged on by the level 7. That same level 7 was the first to die. I was the only one to get out alive.


You're the only level 7 in a party of level 9-11 characters, and everybody wants to play up...

And you're a frontline melee type.

Alternately: The highest Charisma score at the table is 8.

4/5

Calybos1 wrote:

You're the only level 7 in a party of level 9-11 characters, and everybody wants to play up...

And you're a frontline melee type.

Alternately: The highest Charisma score at the table is 8.

Hey, that was our table for Wrath of the Fleshwarped Queen last week! The 8 CHA dwarf was our "leader."

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Stephen Ross wrote:
the GM has an AD&D DM screen and Cardboard Heroes from 1985 for figurines...

Old School!!!! And Yes I did play in school.. Both High School and College. Even before 1985....

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 **** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Fromper wrote:
Or worse: the 8s all want to play up. And it's a season 4 adventure.

Those season 4 adventures are lethal in high tier period, regardless of level.

Scarab Sages 4/5

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... you start rolling Diplomacy checks, and the first two people in the group get totals of 0. I actually pulled that off twice in the session with my 7 CHA Warpriest/Monk.

Dark Archive 4/5

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You know you're in trouble when you get to the table and...

... the GM hears what you'll be playing and says, "Well, THAT should be interesting in this one." Happened when I played this PC in Champion's Chalice, part 2

... one of the PCs has a name with no vowels in it. Hint: He's a grippli. Just say it like you're a croaking frog.

4/5

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Ferious Thune wrote:
... you start rolling Diplomacy checks, and the first two people in the group get totals of 0. I actually pulled that off twice in the session with my 7 CHA Warpriest/Monk.

"I fail to aid with a -1."

Sovereign Court 5/5

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Judge: "Everyone roll diplomacy for Gather Info checks."
Player: "Can I take 10?"
Judge: "Sure... you learn - "
Player: "So I get an 9."
Judge: "...you get an 9?"
Player A: "Yeah, I got a rank in it and it's a class skill, so ... 10 - 1 is a 9."

Best part is, I got the highest result at the table. Next highest was a rolled result of 8.

-5 to Diplomacy:
CHA of 5, and a -2 to CHA checks from using Clearear... hay, when I'm not on drugs I am a sorta likeable guy.

Scarab Sages 4/5

It wasn't so much that I got a 0 that was surprising. I know my Charisma is terrible. It's that the next guy also got a 0. Somebody eventually rolled a positive number.

Silver Crusade 4/5

I once rolled a -2 on a charisma check for my monkey familiar to aid another on a handle animal check to try and be friendly... to monkeys.

5/5 *** Venture-Agent, Netherlands—Utrecht

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I still want to make a Dwarf Alchemist who uses Mutagen for extra CON. Gotta hit that 3 Charisma someday.

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I once played a 3 Int, 15 Wis, Cha 9-ish PC. It was interesting...

Silver Crusade 4/5

My first PC in PFS got knocked down to 4 wisdom once. Of course, as a barbarian, he was already a little below average in that regard.

Grand Lodge 3/5

When your party wizard doesn't rely on Fireball, but instead relying on Protection from Energy to survive his own go-to spell: Detonate...

Grrprr wrote:

You know you're in trouble when you get to the table and...

... the GM hears what you'll be playing and says, "Well, THAT should be interesting in this one." Happened when I played this PC in Champion's Chalice, part 2

... one of the PCs has a name with no vowels in it. Hint: He's a grippli. Just say it like you're a croaking frog.

I gm'd Agents of the Eye with two Gripplis... I have another Grippli waiting to play Agents of the Eye when i gm it again.

5/5 5/55/55/5

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Fromper wrote:
My first PC in PFS got knocked down to 4 wisdom once. Of course, as a barbarian, he was already a little below average in that regard.

My very nice, non murderhoboey druid got Feebleminded while in velociraptor form. The big bad... chose poorly.

Took the party a week to notice. Even eating the guy wasn't a give away.


Unexpected negative rolls are the best. I once lost initiative to an ooze on my oracle. It got a -2, and the GM assured us that we all automatically went first...but I knew I had to roll since I could lose to that, and did with a -5.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

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When the hunter's gorilla companion keeps failing saves against Unnatural Lust.

3/5

You are running a combat slog scenario and the group is all new players with only a few games under their belt, and the cleric says they are a healer and he has the 5 charge wand from the welcome to pathfinder boon so they are good for healing, but no one has a any other wands. and the front line barbarian has 13 AC while raging so they are taking a lot of hits.

1/5 5/5

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That's better than having the person who is playing a pregen Kyra and insists on 'tanking' for every battle and not healing anybody with the wands provided to the character or by other players because "If we put the enemy down fast, then we can heal after."

...and then not hitting the broad side of a barn while Amiri and someone's actual 'tank' type character go down to crits. If they'd been even given one tap with a wand, neither one would have gone down...

5/5 5/55/55/5

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Lau Bannenberg wrote:
When the hunter's gorilla companion keeps failing saves against Unnatural Lust.

The big bad has baleful polymorph, unnatural lust, and imposes a -4 to the save when used against animals...

(actual critter in pfs. Don't blame me)

4/5

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Ward Davis wrote:
You are running a combat slog scenario and the group is all new players with only a few games under their belt, and the cleric says they are a healer and he has the 5 charge wand from the welcome to pathfinder boon so they are good for healing, but no one has a any other wands. and the front line barbarian has 13 AC while raging so they are taking a lot of hits.

At GenCon I played two different Specials in the 1-2 tier as the only character that had a wand of CLW. Those 2PP are the only reason we didn't all die within a couple of encounters.

Scarab Sages

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--The Halfling cleric of Desna's Str score so low that when he attacks he can only do 1 point of damage with his starknife. Oh, and that damage is nonlethal. (This is my brother's PFS character)

-- Your 3rd-level (and 1 scenario away from leveling) TWF ranger becomes the front-line melee character in a party with a 5th-level fighter armed with a flail. While you're being flanked by sneak attack types, the fighter is using multiple rounds (!) to use Intimidate to demoralize them and the bard is using Sense Motive to see if the creatures attacking you understand the fighter. Yes, this really happened to me, but I got my revenge by getting mind-controlled by the BBEG right after being enlarged by the same bard. Fighter also died in that scenario.

-- You're the front-melee character and there's a gunslinger behind you. I have been hit by so many misfires and other nonsense that if there's a gunslinger or swashbuckler in the group, I stay WAAY in the back.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
When the hunter's gorilla companion keeps failing saves against Unnatural Lust.

The big bad has baleful polymorph, unnatural lust, and imposes a -4 to the save when used against animals...

(actual critter in pfs. Don't blame me)

My god... it's like prom all over again...

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Lau Bannenberg wrote:
When the hunter's gorilla companion keeps failing saves against Unnatural Lust.

The big bad has baleful polymorph, unnatural lust, and imposes a -4 to the save when used against animals...

(actual critter in pfs. Don't blame me)

It was that one exactly.

Dark Archive 4/5 5/5

You sit down and you discover later that the character who introduced themselves as a Zen archer is only attacking once a round at 7th level for 1d8+4.

Sovereign Court 4/5 5/5 ** Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden

Davor Firetusk wrote:
You sit down and you discover later that the character who introduced themselves as a Zen archer is only attacking once a round at 7th level for 1d8+4.

A truly zen archer doesn't feel any need to prove himself with vulgar displays of machine-gun fire.

The Exchange 5/5 5/55/55/5

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Zen. Archer. With a space in the middle.

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/5

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Drone wrote:


-- Your 3rd-level (and 1 scenario away from leveling) TWF ranger becomes the front-line melee character in a party with a 5th-level fighter armed with a flail. While you're being flanked by sneak attack types, the fighter is using multiple rounds (!) to use Intimidate to demoralize them and the bard is using Sense Motive to see if the creatures attacking you understand the fighter. Yes, this really happened to me, but I got my revenge by getting mind-controlled by the BBEG right after being enlarged by the same bard. Fighter also died in that scenario.

That reminds me of waay too many games. *shudder*

Drone wrote:
-- You're the front-melee character and there's a gunslinger behind you. I have been hit by so many misfires and other nonsense that if there's a gunslinger or swashbuckler in the group, I stay WAAY in the back.

I'm gonna hope that this isn't PFS because when you misfire, you don't go shooting other people by accident. However, that is incredibly funny.

Grand Lodge 3/5

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Drone wrote:
--The Halfling cleric of Desna's Str score so low that when he attacks he can only do 1 point of damage with his starknife. Oh, and that damage is nonlethal. (This is my brother's PFS character)

My Gnome Sorcerer's damage is so low that his Maximum damage is 1 Non-lethal. [5 Str = 1d3-3 with cestus]

Grand Lodge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Baltic

Gregory Rebelo wrote:
I'm gonna hope that this isn't PFS because when you misfire, you don't go shooting other people by accident. However, that is incredibly funny.

They can explode and catch bystanders in the blast. (If you are careless enough to continue shooting with a broken gun.)

Gun wrote:

Misfires: If the natural result of your attack roll falls within a firearm's misfire value, that shot misses, even if you would have otherwise hit the target. When a firearm misfires, it gains the broken condition. While it has the broken condition, it suffers the normal disadvantages that broken weapons do, and its misfire value increases by 4 unless the wielder has gun training in the particular type of firearm. In that case, the misfire value increases by 2 instead of 4.

Early Firearms: If an early firearm with the broken condition misfires again, it explodes. When a nonmagical firearm explodes, the weapon is destroyed. Magical firearms are wrecked, which means they can't fire until they are fully restored (which requires either the make whole spell or the Gunsmithing feat). When a gun explodes, pick one corner of your square—the explosion creates a burst from that point of origin. Each firearm has a burst size noted in parentheses after its misfire value. Any creature within this burst (including the firearm's wielder) takes damage as if it had been hit by the weapon—a DC 12 Reflex save halves this damage.

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I've had 2 games where my familiar was the best social character on the table.
Tiny flying angels (lyrakien azata) are pretty bad undercover agents though.....and a +5 to diplomacy doesn't really cut it anyway at level 9.

Scarab Sages

Gregory Rebelo,
Both of those examples happened on the same day with the same character at a local con. I don't remember the specifics of the gunslinger incident, but I do remember getting hit in the back a few times for some reason. Perhaps the GM was confusing the firing into melee and firing into a grapple rules?

--Your seat at the table is in perfect eye-line of the guy cosplaying Zapp Brannigan from Futurama (in his dress uniform). *Shudder*

--The cleric of the group is a Merciful Healer and his turn consists of "Is anyone injured? No? Ok, I delay." Then goes back to reading his tablet.

--The twitchy guy who takes a seat next to you at the con showed up without a character, without dice, and without a PFS membership.

Sovereign Court 5/5

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Drone wrote:

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--The twitchy guy who takes a seat next to you at the con showed up without a character, without dice, and without a PFS membership.

It's the third day of the Con and the Twitchy Guy also showed up without their luggage (no deodorant or fresh change of clothing or deodorant)... ok, maybe the airline lost their suitcase... still...

Silver Crusade 4/5

Selvaxri wrote:


Grrprr wrote:

You know you're in trouble when you get to the table and...

... the GM hears what you'll be playing and says, "Well, THAT should be interesting in this one." Happened when I played this PC in Champion's Chalice, part 2

... one of the PCs has a name with no vowels in it. Hint: He's a grippli. Just say it like you're a croaking frog.

I gm'd Agents of the Eye with two Gripplis... I have another Grippli waiting to play Agents of the Eye when i gm it again.

It's not just that I played it with a grippli. My PC is actually a grippli Fiend Keeper. In that particular scenario... it was interesting. By the end, the NPC was my apprentice.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:


... The rule lawyers core book has been worn down to duct tape

That would be me. No lie. Pathfinder was the first roleplaying game I was introduced to, and after almost four years of owning my own CRB and studying the book for a year after I got it, it's taken quite a beating.

Silver Crusade 3/5 5/5

You have a gecko-riding Grippli that has levels in Hell Knight show up.

...oh wait, I have one. XD

Silver Crusade 4/5

Patrick Newcarry wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:


... The rule lawyers core book has been worn down to duct tape

That would be me. No lie. Pathfinder was the first roleplaying game I was introduced to, and after almost four years of owning my own CRB and studying the book for a year after I got it, it's taken quite a beating.

I've seen a lot of complaints here on the forums about the binding on the Starfinder Core Rulebook. I've been tempted to send Paizo's Customer Service a joke email titled "Core Rulebook binding" so they think it's another one of those complaints. Then when they open it, it has a picture of my Pathfinder book, and asks "Is it normal for the binding to fall apart this badly after only 6 years of use?"

Actually, I have no complaints in that regard with my PF book. It's definitely showing heavy wear and tear, but it's still in one piece. Which is more than I can say for my copy of Gods and Magic, which is my only Paizo book to actually have pages fall out.

Second Seekers (Roheas) 4/5 5/55/55/55/5 ***** Regional Venture-Coordinator, Appalachia

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When you weren't signed up to GM, the GM who was signed up no-shows and you have none of your GMing stuff.

Thankfully, two of my players are all stars and always have a flipmat and some extra tokens on them so we made it work.

2/5

The witch fails a Will save in the very first room and has to be tied up and carried for the rest of the scenario, leaving the magus (who dipped investigator) as the only healer in the party--with a CLW wand. (That was last night. The magus did finally get to do something spectacular in the final combat, which mostly made up for playing medic until then.)

Oh, and (I/my stonelord paladin) finally got to say, "I'm not that kind of paladin," a whole bunch of times last night. No spellcasting (so no wand use) and no smite evil.

3/5

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Everyone but two players and the GM cancel.

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