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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Orfamay Quest wrote:

Sorry, I miswrote. ANTI-evolution has become increasingly more marginalized.

Legally yes, but not public opinion wise I think.

In terms of public influence, though, definitely.


Orfamay Quest wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Orfamay Quest wrote:

Sorry, I miswrote. ANTI-evolution has become increasingly more marginalized.

Legally yes, but not public opinion wise I think.
In terms of public influence, though, definitely.

Well, it's lost some court cases, but become more common. Strong enough that candidates for the Republican presidential nomination aren't willing to openly accept evolution.


thejeff wrote:
]Well, it's lost some court cases, but become more common. Strong enough that candidates for the Republican presidential nomination aren't willing to openly accept evolution.

That's more a function of the increased effectiveness of the increasingly small-but-strident right wing of the Republican party.

And, no, it hasn't become more common, except possibly for a very small upturn in the past few years at the expense of the middle ground (e.g. the polarizing described above). If you look at the graph NPC Dave cited, you'll see that all the percentages are roughly flat, with the largest change (and, as far as I can tell, the only significant trend), being in the proportion of atheistic-evolutionists, which increased slightly but significantly over that period. The overall picture, is, as the HuffPo article puts it, no significant change over the past thirty years.

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Guy Humual wrote:
Well I'm Canadian, so I tend to view the US Democratic party as being uncomfortably right wing, and our right wing "Conservative" party would be seen as wacko lefty pinko communist sympathizers by the American news media.

No, I'm pretty sure sucking up to the oil industry, slashing government funding on both social programs and scientific research, and straight up voter suppression is pretty familiar to any American.


Man, I never thought I'd see the day when I favorited an ASiB post.

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A Man In Black wrote:
Guy Humual wrote:
Well I'm Canadian, so I tend to view the US Democratic party as being uncomfortably right wing, and our right wing "Conservative" party would be seen as wacko lefty pinko communist sympathizers by the American news media.
No, I'm pretty sure sucking up to the oil industry, slashing government funding on both social programs and scientific research, and straight up voter suppression is pretty familiar to any American.

You forgot those tax breaks that ate away at the surplus that the Liberals left us with before the subprime mortgage crisis and Harper's desire to snuggle up to Israel.

However Canada is still against the death penalty, doesn't execute it's citizens in over seas drone strikes, does have a progressive tax rate, believes in public health care, believes in separation between church and state, celebrates multiculturalism, and was one of the first countries in the world to legalize same sex marriage. Now I might agree that Harper probably doesn't support some of these things, I seriously doubt however that he'd even try to repeal or change these core Canadian laws and ideals, and while he is trying to be more and more like an American president (it's so cute), he's still got quite a way to go before he matches the policies of Barack Obama.

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Guy Humual wrote:
However Canada is still against the death penalty, doesn't execute it's citizens in over seas drone strikes, does have a progressive tax rate, believes in public health care, believes in separation between church and state, celebrates multiculturalism, and was one of the first countries in the world to legalize same sex marriage.

It is?

Really?

I mean, it's not like the party in power would advocate that Canada needs a less progressive tax rate or anything.

And it's not like the ruling party is led by someone who said something silly about public health care like, "Moving toward alternatives, including those provided by the private sector, is a natural development of our health care system."

Anyway I would maybe not take your list there for granted, or assume that the right wing in Canada is somehow to the left of whatever position you're thinking.

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If you're trying to suggest that Canada has right wing whack jobs, congratulations, it was however a one sided fight as I'd never contest that opinion. What I'm talking about is the conservative government, which as much as I dislike, hasn't acted on any of it's right wing nutbar's opinions despite having the US equivalent of the presidency, house of representatives, and the senate. They've had virtually all the power to do anything for the last three years now and they haven't acted on any of their Right wing impulses. The reason being Harper wants to get elected again and has been trying to rule from the center. The center of Canadian politics are to the left of even your Democratic party.

As to the poll, you're talking about something that hasn't even seen public debate in this country since the last Conservative government (over twenty years ago) and so it's entirely a one sided argument. People's opinions are entirely based on high profile murder cases and US television where the accused is always actually guilty. The problem is that in real life wrongful convictions happen all the time and in the new age of cell phone video police officers are being caught lying, abusing authority, and even breaking the law which in my mind, should the debate be reopened, would quickly sway public opinion back to the 1960s levels of support.


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