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I was asked a question i was unable to find the answer for, in the guide, field guide or on the message board.
If i play a game with a pregen, and grant the chronicle sheet to a charakter of mine, do i get a dayjob roll for that char on that chronicle sheet??
if so; is it my "real" charakter og the pregen that have to roll it?
if not; where is the rule that sais so??
Thanks.
Your character maybe getting credit, but that character is not playing at that table, the pregen is. If the pregen has an appropriate skill rank (very, very few do), then you can make a day job roll based on that. Otherwise, no you do not get a day job roll for the scenario.
As it's minimal money anyways, it's not much of a loss really.
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I allow pregens with day job skills to make day job rolls at my tables because, to the best of my knowledge, there's nothing saying they can't.
But you definitely can't use your regular PC's day job skills. There's no rule that says so, because there doesn't need to be--your character isn't at the table. You can't use that boon on another character that would be just perfect, you can't use your other character's feat tree even though the stars aligned to make it the perfect tactic, and you can't use your other character's day job at the end--that's just not how it works.
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I was always under the impression that pregens never got day job rolls, but it appears that language was removed at some point. In my opinion pregens should NOT get day job rolls, but the current Guide doesn't specifically say they can't.
Since you must be trained (i.e. have put a rank) in a Craft, Profession, or Perform skill before you can make a Day Job roll, the only pregens that even qualify are the Bard, Druid, Gunslinger, 7th level Ninja, and Samurai.
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And remember Dan, you don't have to look for rules that say that PreGens can't grant dayjob rolls to granted characters, you have to look for rules that say they CAN. Not finding any such rules, I'd say that's a negatory on the question.
I did found a rule that characters playing in a PFS scenario get Day Job rolls if they have ranks in Craft, Perform, Profession or a special vanity.
I also found a rule that Pregens are characters playing in a PFS scenario.
Both of these are true, therefore I see no rule preventing the day job or making an exception for pregens. They are characters. Some have ranks in the stated skills. They get day jobs.
How is a pregen different here?
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The character however ISN'T playing in the scenario if the pre-gen is being used to sub for him. Nor is he playing in the scenario if it's GM credit. The pre-gen can't make a dayjob roll for your main, and your main isn't at the table to make it's own roll. That's part of the perks for risking your own hide.
This has been discussed in other threads before, but sometimes playing a pregen is not to avoid risk, but because it's the only viable option OR for the greater benefit of the table.
GM credit and day jobs are explicit called out as exceptions (AND there is even a con boon to allow day jobs for GM credits). The same exception is not made for pregen credit. The pregen is not making Day Job rolls for your main, it's making its own day job, and THEN the sheet is being applied to someone else.
At the end of the day, I am in the same boat as Dan upthread. I was with you in that there was a blanket rule for pregens not getting day jobs, but if that language was there it has since been removed. So I cannot justify denying someone playing a pregen his day job until official clarification.
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you could get to similar bonus by taking craft on a max int build and using crafter's fortune.
As a gnome alchemist using craft alchemy
+4 for INT 18
+3 for Skill Focus (Craft)
+1 for the rank
+3 for class skill
+1 for being an alchemist
+5 for crafter's fortune spell
+2 gnome racial bonus
+2 for an alchemist's lab
+21 total bonus
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I was not sure gladhandling works on day jobs, apparently it does
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okj7?Gladhandling-in-PFS#7
so it is superior for any result of 25+
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I was not sure gladhandling works on day jobs, apparently it does
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2okj7?Gladhandling-in-PFS#7
so it is superior for any result of 25+
Kind of hit or miss though, I've run a Street Performer from 1st to (almost) 11th now and get it about half the time. The percentage is much better lately, but mostly i've been playing with the same judges for the last year or so...
so you are correct, this is kind of YMMV.
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here's another twist on this.
If I am running a 1st level PC, and get a Day Job roll, so that he has DJ money on his first three chronicles, now I re-create the PC and he now no longer has a rank in Craft, Perform, Profession or a special vanity... do I have to remove the money he got with those three Day Job rolls?
For a twist on a twist for this:
Running a PC as an Alchemist for first level.Rebuilding into any other class at second level.
Do you get to keep all the alchemical items you crafted between scenarios (at 1/3 price) during first level as an Alchemist, when you are no longer an Alchemist?