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[Eric Morton]

CalebTGordan wrote:

Look, this is a bit ridiculous. Why not have a google doc spreadsheet where all the lists are posted.

I'm maintaining a (private, non-anonymous) Google Doc where everyone who wants to share their picks can do so in one centralized but non-public location... Unfortunately, very few of the dozen plus people with the link to that Document have added anything yet, and I'm hesitant to add other voters' lists on their behalf.

[Rabbitball]

I've already added to it. Also I have sent out lists to those who asked for them, and anyone who wants to send one to me is more than welcome.

[frank gori]

Eric Morton wrote:

CalebTGordan wrote:

Look, this is a bit ridiculous. Why not have a google doc spreadsheet where all the lists are posted.

I'm maintaining a (private, non-anonymous) Google Doc where everyone who wants to share their picks can do so in one centralized but non-public location... Unfortunately, very few of the dozen plus people with the link to that Document have added anything yet, and I'm hesitant to add other voters' lists on their behalf.

Excellent guilt trip, added my list :p

[Acre]

GM_Solspiral wrote:

Eric Morton wrote:

CalebTGordan wrote:

Look, this is a bit ridiculous. Why not have a google doc spreadsheet where all the lists are posted.

I'm maintaining a (private, non-anonymous) Google Doc where everyone who wants to share their picks can do so in one centralized but non-public location... Unfortunately, very few of the dozen plus people with the link to that Document have added anything yet, and I'm hesitant to add other voters' lists on their behalf.

Excellent guilt trip, added my list :p

Me too, I'm all in!

[frank gori]

Shadders wrote:

* I'm feeling strangely affirmed in my decision not to design a monster yet. :-P

I'm on 6 of 9 lists I've seen, but I'm not going to jinx it by getting my monster on paper yet. I have 2-3 concepts kicking around in my brain vying for the spot if I get it.

[Papasteve08]

Acre wrote:

GM_Solspiral wrote:

Eric Morton wrote:

CalebTGordan wrote:

Look, this is a bit ridiculous. Why not have a google doc spreadsheet where all the lists are posted.

I'm maintaining a (private, non-anonymous) Google Doc where everyone who wants to share their picks can do so in one centralized but non-public location... Unfortunately, very few of the dozen plus people with the link to that Document have added anything yet, and I'm hesitant to add other voters' lists on their behalf.

Excellent guilt trip, added my list :p

Me too, I'm all in!

Twisted my arm too (as if that is all that difficult)

[James Risner]

If you haven't sent me your list, send it and I'll send mine.

;-)

[Donald Robinson]

Just want to apologize to the people i haven't responded to yet. My list and stats are on my computer and my phone isn't copy-pasting nicely. Promise to respond in the morning when I'm back at the desk. I'll also give the stats on the 15 lists i have at that time. Still willing to take more lists :)

[Andrew Shumate]

I'll be updating my metalist and responding to people who have sent me lists tomorrow. I'm afraid I need to call it a night for now.

[Eric Morton]

James Risner wrote:

If you haven't sent me your list, send it and I'll send mine.

;-)

I'll do one better than that; I'll PM you a link to seven lists all in one place and you can add your own to the growing compilation.

[Sean McGowan]

Curaigh wrote:

Anthony Adam wrote:

Interestingly, following on from Neil in a way, I have noticed a trend with the shared lists...

My list has more in common with shares from entrants who are entering for the second, third, etc year. I have very, very few matches with shares from first time entrants share lists.

So there is definitely some convergence on how people voted and rated items based on how many times they have entered before.

When we start a thread of lists next week (though yeah, some of you will be bored with it already :) Should we also keep track of creators years entering, voting tags, previous Top 32, etc.? I recall DankeSean's list being +50% on the Top 32 and +90% on the Keeper Pile (top 89). Since he has multiple tags I trust his judgement highly. Neil's even higher as he has been on both sides of the curtain. :)

That said if DankeSean (or Neil & Clark) want to pm me a list... :)

Like Candyman, speak my name and I will come.

I honestly don't recall my favorites list last year being that spot on for the top 32, but numbers get very blurry to me given enough distance. I do recall being depressed that I wasn't more spot on; there were a lot of items I floved that didn't even make the top 89. (I still mourn the discordant cur and golden monkey of greed.)

I was a bit more lackadaisical this year as far as sorting out my favorites; last year I kept distinct 'keep' and 'reject' files, then in the 'keep' file things I liked were highlighted in blue, things I LOVED got deep purple. Between all that it was easy enough to sort out a top 64 or so faves. Since that wound up being much too time consuming (checking two seperate files to see if I'd already seen an item previously wound up being more effort than I'd expected) and I was busy on something else all during the voting this year, I settled for one big item folder with blue highlights as needed, and no distinction between 'good' and 'awesome'. At some point I intend to go through and extract all those blue items and compile them into A List, but since I'm still busy with that something else through the weekend, that will have to wait.

So I won't be joining in the PM fest here; I do intend to post a list here or in the appropriate thread once the judges are done being judgmental and we cann all publicly talk about what a great item the whatsit of shinfulgraging was.

[Aeris Fallstar]

I'm all in, too. Just added my top picks.

[James Risner]

I find it very interesting that I pretty much don't agree with most everyone on what are the best items this year.

Not only do I not agree, most people don't share common items between their favorites.

I imagine that puts a rather chaotic spin on the top 100 items from voting.

[Covent]

Papasteve08 wrote:

Alright everyone: If you decide you want to trade lists, please reply to this and add your name to the list so we can keep it up to date. Then have fun going back through and finding these guys to PM your list to!

I can't say this enough, thanks to everyone who is participating!

People who want to trade lists with you:

Papasteve08
Acre
Jrcmarine
Chris Shaeffer aka Hodge Podge
Shadders
Eric Morton aka Epic Meepo
James Risner
Kalervo Oikarinen aka lumiapina
Samuel Stone
Wicht
Giorgios Abate aka Gio
Tokoz
Joseph Kellogg aka RainyDayNinja
michaeljpatrick
Anthony Adam
Zi'on Darkbane
James Raine aka FaxCelestis
Netopalis
Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan
Donald Robinson
Andrew Marlowe aka Locke1520
Mikko Kallio aka Serpent
Devilfluff
Azouth
Reckless
Garrick Williams aka Cyrad
Aeris Fallstar
*New*Matthew Dillon aka Covent

People who just want to see your list, but don't have a list to trade:
Thunderbuckets
Wolfboy
Nickolas Floyd
Nikou

[Papasteve08]

James Risner wrote:

I find it very interesting that I pretty much don't agree with most everyone on what are the best items this year.

Not only do I not agree, most people don't share common items between their favorites.

I imagine that puts a rather chaotic spin on the top 100 items from voting.

See Neil Spicer's post on the first page... I agree it is very interesting, especially when you contrast it with the judges, who have a tendency to come to a quick consensus on the top 20 or so. I think that discrepancy between what we (individually) think are good items and what the judges ultimately come up with is invaluable insight into our own skill as a designer. Of course that takes a willingness to be honest with yourself if you are in fact, way off.

[Covent]

Ok, Just finished Pm'ing everyone on the list.

If you have not received a PM from me and would like to see my list either post here or PM me and I will PM it to you.

[Landon Cole]

Covent wrote:

Papasteve08 wrote:

Alright everyone: If you decide you want to trade lists, please reply to this and add your name to the list so we can keep it up to date. Then have fun going back through and finding these guys to PM your list to!

I can't say this enough, thanks to everyone who is participating!

People who want to trade lists with you:

Papasteve08
Acre
Jrcmarine
Chris Shaeffer aka Hodge Podge
Shadders
Eric Morton aka Epic Meepo
James Risner
Kalervo Oikarinen aka lumiapina
Samuel Stone
Wicht
Giorgios Abate aka Gio
Tokoz
Joseph Kellogg aka RainyDayNinja
michaeljpatrick
Anthony Adam
Zi'on Darkbane
James Raine aka FaxCelestis
Netopalis
Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan
Donald Robinson
Andrew Marlowe aka Locke1520
Mikko Kallio aka Serpent
Devilfluff
Azouth
Reckless
Garrick Williams aka Cyrad
Aeris Fallstar
Matthew Dillon aka Covent

People who just want to see your list, but don't have a list to trade:
Thunderbuckets
Wolfboy
Nickolas Floyd
Nikou
*New*DLandonCole

I'm afraid I didn't keep a list, but I'd love to see what others have made of round one if they don't mind PMing me!

[Papasteve08]

Landon Cole wrote:

I'm afraid I didn't keep a list, but I'd love to see what others have made of round one if they don't mind PMing me!

Check the post cull database, chances are good you will remember names from your voting. Several people have made lists based off of that.

[Evan Draughon]

Landon Cole wrote:

Covent wrote:

Papasteve08 wrote:

Alright everyone: If you decide you want to trade lists, please reply to this and add your name to the list so we can keep it up to date. Then have fun going back through and finding these guys to PM your list to!

I can't say this enough, thanks to everyone who is participating!

People who want to trade lists with you:

Papasteve08
Acre
Jrcmarine
Chris Shaeffer aka Hodge Podge
Shadders
Eric Morton aka Epic Meepo
James Risner
Kalervo Oikarinen aka lumiapina
Samuel Stone
Wicht
Giorgios Abate aka Gio
Tokoz
Joseph Kellogg aka RainyDayNinja
michaeljpatrick
Anthony Adam
Zi'on Darkbane
James Raine aka FaxCelestis
Netopalis
Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan
Donald Robinson
Andrew Marlowe aka Locke1520
Mikko Kallio aka Serpent
Devilfluff
Azouth
Reckless
Garrick Williams aka Cyrad
Aeris Fallstar
Matthew Dillon aka Covent

People who just want to see your list, but don't have a list to trade:
Thunderbuckets
Wolfboy
Nickolas Floyd
Nikou
DLandonCole
*New* Evan Draughon

[Chris Shaeffer]

Hey, sorry to folks I haven't responded to yet. I haven't been home much for a few days. (Been posting with my phone.)

[Taylor Hubler]

I actually posted that I wanted a PM too, but had no list to trade. The post must have been lost in the site going down.

[R D Ramsey]

Same, looks as if my post was lost. I have no keeper list of my own, but would like to see others. Thanks!

[Aaron Miller 335]

Looks as my post was lost too, sum it up any one who wants to please pm me your list and I will send you mine if you want. And I have seen my item on someones list!

[Eric Morton]

To anyone thinking about contacting me regarding my Exit Poll Google Doc:

I promised contributors to the Exit Poll that they would be participating in a private exchange of favorite lists. Since the Google Doc is not entirely anonymous, I need to respect that expectation of privacy. As a result, I am not free to share a link with voters who do not have their own lists of favorites to contribute to the exchange.

I will, however, attempt to compile some aggregate data about items that are popular with Exit Poll contributors. And voters who did not keep a favorites list during voting should feel free to look through the post-cull database and create favorites lists after the fact from the names of items they remember liking.

Sorry I can't share the contributors' lists more freely. Thanks for understanding.

[Wicht]

Papasteve08 wrote:

James Risner wrote:

I find it very interesting that I pretty much don't agree with most everyone on what are the best items this year.

Not only do I not agree, most people don't share common items between their favorites.

I imagine that puts a rather chaotic spin on the top 100 items from voting.

See Neil Spicer's post on the first page... I agree it is very interesting, especially when you contrast it with the judges, who have a tendency to come to a quick consensus on the top 20 or so. I think that discrepancy between what we (individually) think are good items and what the judges ultimately come up with is invaluable insight into our own skill as a designer. Of course that takes a willingness to be honest with yourself if you are in fact, way off.

The thing to watch for will be to take the top 32 and then see who's list was closest. Then flood that person with requests for feedback on your next year's item. :D

[Acre]

Wicht wrote:

Papasteve08 wrote:

James Risner wrote:

I find it very interesting that I pretty much don't agree with most everyone on what are the best items this year.

Not only do I not agree, most people don't share common items between their favorites.

I imagine that puts a rather chaotic spin on the top 100 items from voting.

See Neil Spicer's post on the first page... I agree it is very interesting, especially when you contrast it with the judges, who have a tendency to come to a quick consensus on the top 20 or so. I think that discrepancy between what we (individually) think are good items and what the judges ultimately come up with is invaluable insight into our own skill as a designer. Of course that takes a willingness to be honest with yourself if you are in fact, way off.

The thing to watch for will be to take the top 32 and then see who's list was closest. Then flood that person with requests for feedback on your next year's item. :D

That is definitely my plan :0

Hopefully the poor soul with most correct exit poll picks for the actual top 32 is prepared for that eventuality...

[James Risner]

I wonder if I was too strict.

I simply wouldn't vote for an item if it wasn't well balanced.
But I noticed a trend in the top lists of liking items raft had good effects, good flavor, or similar. Despite them not being entirely balanced. I seem to be the minority opinion ;-(

I'll see when they drop the top 32 how well my taste aligns or doesn't align ;-)

[Eric Morton]

For those of you anxious to see the most popular Exit Poll items...

...here's my Exit Poll Results thread.

[Jesse Southwick]

I've seen things on lists that I would never vote for.

I don't care how evocative or innovative the item of resurrection/damage transference/taking the danger out of the game is. It did not get an upvote from me(caveat if it was against another item falling into the same category. I never voted same/equal) I'm also biased against teleportation...

I'll not lie. I have a bias for the lower end of the power scale. I've played characters well into "epic" levels(40+), but I'd rather create a new character by level 15-20(damn game group that like high level play! grrr). I think the game is at its best from levels 3-10 or so.

[Papasteve08]

Acre wrote:

Wicht wrote:

Papasteve08 wrote:

James Risner wrote:

I find it very interesting that I pretty much don't agree with most everyone on what are the best items this year.

Not only do I not agree, most people don't share common items between their favorites.

I imagine that puts a rather chaotic spin on the top 100 items from voting.

See Neil Spicer's post on the first page... I agree it is very interesting, especially when you contrast it with the judges, who have a tendency to come to a quick consensus on the top 20 or so. I think that discrepancy between what we (individually) think are good items and what the judges ultimately come up with is invaluable insight into our own skill as a designer. Of course that takes a willingness to be honest with yourself if you are in fact, way off.

The thing to watch for will be to take the top 32 and then see who's list was closest. Then flood that person with requests for feedback on your next year's item. :D

That is definitely my plan :0

Hopefully the poor soul with most correct exit poll picks for the actual top 32 is prepared for that eventuality...

Hopefully my picks are terrible... :)

[Giorgios Abate]

By combining my vague memory and the post-cull database I managed to make something - I think I answered to everyone. If not, please do tell~

[Jerry Keyes]

It's scary how many hours I spend lurking on this forum, but the contributions by all involved are absolutely addictive. Unfortunately, I wasn't organized enough this year to make a keep/drop list, but I would like to mention to some of the new entrants...

I voted for several items (some, several times) that were missing "crunchy bits". One in particular was written so well that I forgave it completely for missing critical information. Why? Because I want to see more from many of these writers. They will likely learn from their mistakes (probably when a judge says, "what's the save DC?", etc.), and maybe we will get to enjoy these talented people further.

Anyway, if anyone wants to share their list without reciprocation, I'd like to read it!

And thanks to everyone posting for filling the void while we wait.

[Wicht]

James Risner wrote:

I wonder if I was too strict.

I simply wouldn't vote for an item if it wasn't well balanced.
But I noticed a trend in the top lists of liking items raft had good effects, good flavor, or similar. Despite them not being entirely balanced. I seem to be the minority opinion ;-(

I'll see when they drop the top 32 how well my taste aligns or doesn't align ;-)

I preferred balanced items to gonzo items as well. So you are not alone.

[Eric Morton]

In light of numerous board members' objections, my Exit Poll is now closed. Previously-shared information will no longer be available for viewing.

My apologies for any inconvenience, and my thanks to all who participated.