Halfling question..


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Grand Lodge

In our home game, a halfling is allowed to use a standard shortbow, though it is treated as a longbow for that particular character. Is this possible in PFS? Meaning, could a halfling use a standard shortbow instead of a small shortbow?

Thanks.

Bael

Liberty's Edge

No, because it is inappropriatly sized.

My homegroup did the same things you do, but as per RAW a Medium Shortbow is for Mediums, if used by a small character, it incurs a -2 penalty due to inappropriate sizing.

Grand Lodge

Thanks. I guess that makes sense. Onward to character creation!


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A small longbow does the same damage as a medium shortbow, so that is what you would want if you are proficient with all martial weapons in general or longbows in particular.

Dark Archive

Zach Williams wrote:

No, because it is inappropriatly sized.

My homegroup did the same things you do, but as per RAW a Medium Shortbow is for Mediums, if used by a small character, it incurs a -2 penalty due to inappropriate sizing.

A medium shortbow is a 2 handed weapon, so RAW it can't be weilded by a small character with less than 3 hands.

The RAW is a little silly in this case, but them's the rules.


On the plus side, you can always go to the pathfinder lodge and say "I wand a small sized longbow, or I want a small sized longbow +1 and they'll reach under the counter and hand it to you. After you have enough fame (which should always outpace your gold) You can say "I want a small +1 shocking burst flaming holy animal bane" weapon- you don't need to wait to kill a halfling archer.


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That´s right, because hidden in the cellars of the pathfinder Lodge, somewhere deep within, are a lot of halfling slaves who know how to nick that bow for you. Even though halflings normaly prefer slings, they know to overcome their human slavers one day, they probably need bows too.


Quote:
A medium shortbow is a 2 handed weapon

No, in the Core Rulebook, ranged weapons are not devided into light, one-handed, and two-handed. They're just ranged weapons. And they are listed as requiring two hands to use.

Core Rulebook wrote:
You need two hands to use a bow, regardless of its size.

Still, I agree that it wouldn't make much sense to take that -2 penalty if you can just buy a longbow that deals the same amount of damage as an inappropriately sized shortbow.

Grand Lodge

Thanks everyone for their input. I made some changes to the initial character concept, and thus the weapons changed. I will say, this is one of the best things about this forum; people willing to help.

Thanks again. Now I just need to get into a game, and all will be well!

Cheers!

Bael

Silver Crusade

Andreas Forster wrote:
Quote:
A medium shortbow is a 2 handed weapon

No, in the Core Rulebook, ranged weapons are not devided into light, one-handed, and two-handed. They're just ranged weapons. And they are listed as requiring two hands to use.

Core Rulebook wrote:
You need two hands to use a bow, regardless of its size.

That's why my halfling uses a Colossal longbow. He is –10 to hit, but the damage is 5d6.

/sarcasm.


The Fox wrote:
Andreas Forster wrote:
Quote:
A medium shortbow is a 2 handed weapon

No, in the Core Rulebook, ranged weapons are not devided into light, one-handed, and two-handed. They're just ranged weapons. And they are listed as requiring two hands to use.

Core Rulebook wrote:
You need two hands to use a bow, regardless of its size.

That's why my halfling uses a Colossal longbow. He is –10 to hit, but the damage is 5d6.

/sarcasm.

Stuff like that also came to mind when I looked at the weapon tables in Core Rulebook. There has to be some kind of size equivalent for ranged weapons. I just didn't find anything about that.

Silver Crusade

If a weapon requires two hands to use, it is a two-handed weapon.

The Exchange

The Fox wrote:
If a weapon requires two hands to use, it is a two-handed weapon.

Is a crossbow a two-handed weapon? or a pistol? both require two hands to load, but not to shot...

Silver Crusade

nosig wrote:
The Fox wrote:
If a weapon requires two hands to use, it is a two-handed weapon.
Is a crossbow a two-handed weapon? or a pistol? both require two hands to load, but not to shot...

You can shoot a crossbow that is one size too large for you (using two hands), but you cannot load such a crossbow. You cannot shoot a crossbow that is two or more sizes too large for you.

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