Anyone know how I can do this?
....wut? It's called "being a drow". you can already do that.
yeah, its called darkvision, no extra work needed just be a dark elf and exist
Sorry i meant, see in magical darkness, I was planning on being a drow cavern sniper 1 and ninja 19
Darkvision works in all illumination short of supernatural darkness. Deeper Darkness, when it takes the light level to supernaturally dark, cannot be seen through. This is something the Paizo team changed from 3rd ed.
well I'm attempting directly to cause and fight within deeper darkness along side a tiefling and a fetchling as a drow
Sorry I guess i sounded vaguer than intended
think there is a spell for it, forgot which one though.. we thought it terribly boring in our games, nothing to see.. nothing to visualize.. not much to describe.
EDIT: maybe it works if our entire party is able to see in darkness, as it was some were feeling left out.
well I'm attempting directly to cause and fight within deeper darkness along side a tiefling and a fetchling as a drow
Sorry I guess i sounded vaguer than intended
Darkvision as a spell is 3rd level.
Huh...if you want drow, play a drow.Otherwise for some reason if your GM won't let you play a drow, and you want Darkvision as a racial ability off of the top of my head there's:
Dwarf
Half-Orc
Elf (with alternate racial trait)
Gnome (with alternate racial trait)
(Tiefling/Fetchling)-you already mentioned these.
AasimarThe base Tielfing has extra synergy because their racial ability is Darkness. Cast that in shadow or at night and only those with Darkvision can see through it. Which is pretty nifty as your foes are now blind unless of course they also have darkvision or some other sense to use.
Or they're Aasimar and they blow it away with Daylight.
Good luck.
Yes I understand I can be a drow or a half drow, the issue is my darkness ability and my lack of ability to see within it half the time.
I have darkvision, I can cast it as part of an attack by applying it to a bolt or arrow as a swift action. I need to be able to see the things when they're in the darkness
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Yes I understand I can be a drow or a half drow, the issue is my darkness ability and my lack of ability to see within it half the time.
I have darkvision, I can cast it as part of an attack by applying it to a bolt or arrow as a swift action. I need to be able to see the things when they're in the darkness
Are you casting Darkness (the drow racial Spell-like ability) or Deeper Darkness? If you are casting Darkness, the darkness is not actually considered "supernatural" darkness even though it's produced by magic. Your Darkvision will work just fine.
Deeper Darkness can create supernatural darkness, which interferes with Darkvision.
Darkvision works in all illumination short of supernatural darkness. Deeper Darkness, when it takes the light level to supernaturally dark, cannot be seen through. This is something the Paizo team changed from 3rd ed.
The ability to see in the supernatural darkness created by Deeper Darkness (not the regular Darkness spell) is very hard to get. I'm not sure if you could do so as a low-level character.
agree with weirdo. I'm not aware of anything that can bypass Deeper Darkness other than simply dispeling it with Dispel Magic or by using Daylight.
I'd recommend you fight in areas of "normal, magical darkness" IE; use the "darkness" spell/SLA to make things dark but not supernaturally dark, then your darkvision will work just fine. Dispel any Deeper Darkness you come across, as it will hamper your ability to fight.
in the tiefling alternate ability table there is an option to trade some of your abilities for "See in Darkness". but that doesn't help you if you desire to play a drow and it is the only one I know of for a low level player.
You can look up the "blindfold of true darkness" in the arms and equipment guide. It makes you blind but you gain 60' blindsight. Also it is just about 9,000 gold, very affordable even at mid-level.
Probably not something you want to wear all the time but it is otherwise a great item.
Play a Tiefling and then add the 'Fiend Sight' racial feat - this will give you 120' Darkvision and 60' low-light.
Tiefling with the Tiefling feats that increase your ability to see. With two of them you can see in darkness as a devil.
tiefling and 3.5 wont work with this DM, And it has to be drow or half-elf because i'm going up the drow noble feat tree
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Ah. Drow Noble's Deeper Darkness is a pain exactly because it kills your Darkvision. I like giving players the option to cast Blacklight instead - it has a shorter duration and smaller area, but the caster (and only the caster) can see in it. Or just ask if you can not "upgrade" that SLA when you take that feat.
Otherwise I think you're out of luck.
i was looking into half-drow, with human heritage but I can't find any humanoid races at all with see in darkness.... it's that hard lol
Dustboy- you are looking for Fiend sight and taking it twice. Unfortunately, i don't think tiefling counts as a humanoid to take it with racial heritage.
You could just play a tiefling and say you were born into drow society.
Dustboy- you are looking for Fiend sight and taking it twice. Unfortunately, i don't think tiefling counts as a humanoid to take it with racial heritage.
You could just play a tiefling and say you were born into drow society.
Also, I believe the supplements for aasimar and tieflings each break from the core canon and allow for them to come from other than human heritage. The d20pfsrd lists it as a sidebar here but I think it comes from Blood of Fiends.
I don't think it would be too out of the ordinary for such an individual to be in a drow region.
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A drow with fiendish ancestry is very thematic. There's even a demon apostle racial archetype to represent the amount of drow-fiend contact. You'd mechanically be a tiefling but you could have drow appearance and culture / backstory.
A drow with fiendish ancestry is very thematic. There's even a demon apostle racial archetype to represent the amount of drow-fiend contact. You'd mechanically be a tiefling but you could have drow appearance and culture / backstory.
I like that - I think I'll use it myself!
Half (Drow) Elf, taking Racial heritage (Half-Elves qualify for Human feats, don't they?) to get Tiefling "Fiend Sight" twice, second time grants you See in Darkness.
Problem is, this requires a huge feat investment, and it means you won't get it at low levels.
Tiefling abilities are not Human feats. And you really can't take Racial Heritage "Tiefling".Half (Drow) Elf, taking Racial heritage (Half-Elves qualify for Human feats, don't they?) to get Tiefling "Fiend Sight" twice, second time grants you See in Darkness.
Problem is, this requires a huge feat investment, and it means you won't get it at low levels.
Have you read the Racial Heritage (Human) feat? I don't believe you have. It allows you to choose another humanoid race and qualify as that race for the purpose of taking traits, feats, etc from that race. Since Fiend Sight is a Tiefling racial feat, you'd be able to choose tiefling as your race for Racial Heritage, and then follow that up with taking Fiend Sight twice.
Level 1 - Go Half Elf, take Drow Magic and Drow-Blooded alternate racial traits. Take Racial Heritage: Tiefling as your level 1 feat.
Level 3 - Take Fiend Sight as your level 3 feat.
Level 5 - Take Fiend Sight again as your level 5 feat, you can now see in Supernatural Darkness.
Level 7, 9, 11 and 13 you can take the Half Drow Paragon and Drow Nobility feats.
Oracle of the dark tapestry grants see in darkness ("pierce the veil"), with one of the 11th level revelations
And yes people, there is something called "see in darkness" in the beastiary. Generally only devils get it.
Wow I was surprised to see this bubble back to the top :D
So many good ansswers!, as dor Wolfbeard That wont work simply because a teifling is not a humanoid.
For the rest, I've found a 'Method'
Orc blooded sorcerer--->Keen Scent--->Scent of fear(Moster)
Wow I was surprised to see this bubble back to the top :D
So many good ansswers!, as dor Wolfbeard That wont work simply because a teifling is not a humanoid.
For the rest, I've found a 'Method'
Orc blooded sorcerer--->Keen Scent--->Scent of fear(Moster)
Thanks Dustyboy, I was confused by that until I checked out that indeed Tieflings never count as Humanoid. That actually makes them even more powerful in the long run, since they're immune to certain monster effects (like creating spawn from Morgh's etc).