paizo.com Recent Posts in [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product linepaizo.com Recent Posts in [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product line2014-06-25T07:23:32Z2014-06-25T07:23:32ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineMonkeygodhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2722017-06-28T04:33:49Z2017-06-28T04:33:49Z<p><necromancy> </p>
<p>Couple of questions: </p>
<p>For converting class features from new archetypes for existing talented classes, how does one go about it? </p>
<p>Is it a case of 'if X feature that is replaced is an edge, the new ability is also an edge'? </p>
<p>Ie, if an archetype was created after Cleric that altered/replaced domains, and I wanted to choose it as an ability for a talented cleric, is that new ability always an edge? </p>
<p>Or is it possible such an ability could be a talent? Is it based on the ability's power level at all? </p>
<p>2) What the status on new talented books? And possibly a talented comp kickstarter, now that Talented Bestiary is in peoples hands(more or less)?</p>Couple of questions:
For converting class features from new archetypes for existing talented classes, how does one go about it?
Is it a case of 'if X feature that is replaced is an edge, the new ability is also an edge'?
Ie, if an archetype was created after Cleric that altered/replaced domains, and I wanted to choose it as an ability for a talented cleric, is that new ability always an edge?
Or is it possible such an ability could be a talent? Is it based on the ability's power level at...Monkeygod2017-06-28T04:33:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineFuzzy-Wuzzyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2712017-03-28T16:17:38Z2017-03-28T16:17:38Z<p>Familiars and animal companions each have archetypes that it'd be nice to be able to mix-and-match. Any chance of Talented Familiars and Talented Companions someday?</p>Familiars and animal companions each have archetypes that it'd be nice to be able to mix-and-match. Any chance of Talented Familiars and Talented Companions someday?Fuzzy-Wuzzy2017-03-28T16:17:38ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineDelos Fearhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2702015-05-28T05:15:57Z2015-05-28T05:15:57Z<p>Can we get a status report?</p>Can we get a status report?Delos Fear2015-05-28T05:15:57ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineOwen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2692015-02-20T04:24:08Z2015-02-08T09:16:41Z<p>The Four Horsemen are working on the Taletned Bestiary, which I think is going to blow people away, but it's a much bigger book than we normally run.</p>
<p>Talented Bard and Talented Witch both just need me to have a little spare time. Sunning RPG Superstar turns out to be pretty dang time consuming, as is Freeport, not to mention my other RGG duties, like taxes.</p>The Four Horsemen are working on the Taletned Bestiary, which I think is going to blow people away, but it's a much bigger book than we normally run.
Talented Bard and Talented Witch both just need me to have a little spare time. Sunning RPG Superstar turns out to be pretty dang time consuming, as is Freeport, not to mention my other RGG duties, like taxes.Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)2015-02-08T09:16:41ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineKelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2682015-02-07T23:31:52Z2015-02-07T23:31:52Z<p>Might I ask if there is any timeframe in which we can expect the next Talented product to come out?</p>Might I ask if there is any timeframe in which we can expect the next Talented product to come out?Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2015-02-07T23:31:52ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineKelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2672014-12-14T21:25:13Z2014-12-14T21:25:13Z<p>Have an idea. Talented Templates. Creating a vampire? Use the edge/talent system to buy powers, which would allow different themes of vampire to be created. If you want more talents and edges, pick up some vulnerabilities.</p>Have an idea. Talented Templates. Creating a vampire? Use the edge/talent system to buy powers, which would allow different themes of vampire to be created. If you want more talents and edges, pick up some vulnerabilities.Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2014-12-14T21:25:13ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineKelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2662014-12-14T21:22:37Z2014-12-14T21:22:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Owen KC Stephens wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:</div><blockquote> When you finish all the Talented PDFs for every single class, which is over 60 PDFs or so, could you perhaps compile a hardcover of every Talented PDF plus assorted extra talents, art, and stuff? That would be amazing. </blockquote><p>It would also be a 1,000 page book!
<p>We certainly plan to look at compiling, updating, and printing when we have more classes done. When and with what classes is an open question. </blockquote><p>Split the line into a book for martials, a book for experts and gishes, and a book for full casters?Owen KC Stephens wrote:Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote: When you finish all the Talented PDFs for every single class, which is over 60 PDFs or so, could you perhaps compile a hardcover of every Talented PDF plus assorted extra talents, art, and stuff? That would be amazing.
It would also be a 1,000 page book! We certainly plan to look at compiling, updating, and printing when we have more classes done. When and with what classes is an open question. Split the line into a book for martials, a...Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2014-12-14T21:22:37ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineDark_Mistresshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2652014-12-10T16:35:06Z2014-12-10T16:35:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Marc Radle wrote:</div><blockquote> Hey DM! Long time no see! :) </blockquote><p>Yeah due to the issues I am sure you are aware of, I rarely post and just got in the habit of not posting because of it.Marc Radle wrote:Hey DM! Long time no see! :)
Yeah due to the issues I am sure you are aware of, I rarely post and just got in the habit of not posting because of it.Dark_Mistress2014-12-10T16:35:06ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineOwen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2642014-12-10T12:07:14Z2014-12-10T12:07:14Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">"Shareeth" Also, in the scheme of things when would we see a Talented Bard, since Talented Witch will be out sometime this month? I suspect it would be Magus then Alchemist then Bard? [/QUOTE wrote:</div><blockquote></p>
<p>Obviously Talented Witch got delayed. I have a freelance draft for Talented bard (which is the first time I've trusted someone else to tackle a talented class), so it may actually beat Talented Witch to market.</p>"Shareeth" Also, in the scheme of things when would we see a Talented Bard, since Talented Witch will be out sometime this month? I suspect it would be Magus then Alchemist then Bard? [/QUOTE wrote:Obviously Talented Witch got delayed. I have a freelance draft for Talented bard (which is the first time I've trusted someone else to tackle a talented class), so it may actually beat Talented Witch to market.Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)2014-12-10T12:07:14ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineOwen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2632014-12-10T12:05:28Z2014-12-10T12:05:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Scorpioni wrote:</div><blockquote> Any update on the talented bestiary? </blockquote><p>The draft is still being worked on.Scorpioni wrote:Any update on the talented bestiary?
The draft is still being worked on.Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)2014-12-10T12:05:28ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineOwen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2622014-12-10T12:04:36Z2014-12-10T12:04:36Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:</div><blockquote> When you finish all the Talented PDFs for every single class, which is over 60 PDFs or so, could you perhaps compile a hardcover of every Talented PDF plus assorted extra talents, art, and stuff? That would be amazing. </blockquote><p>It would also be a 1,000 page book!
<p>We certainly plan to look at compiling, updating, and printing when we have more classes done. When and with what classes is an open question.</p>Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:When you finish all the Talented PDFs for every single class, which is over 60 PDFs or so, could you perhaps compile a hardcover of every Talented PDF plus assorted extra talents, art, and stuff? That would be amazing.
It would also be a 1,000 page book! We certainly plan to look at compiling, updating, and printing when we have more classes done. When and with what classes is an open question.Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)2014-12-10T12:04:36ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineOwen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2612014-12-10T12:03:04Z2014-12-10T12:03:04Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:</div><blockquote> I have a question regarding talented fighters. If I want to use an archetypes that replaces a progression of class features, but I want to build a talented fighter, is it balanced to start out with a standard PF fighter, apply the archetype, then go and replace the bonus feats and all non-archetype class features remaining with fighter talents? </blockquote><p>In general, the way we've handled this (which hasn't been thoroughly playtested), is to take a talented fighter and require it to buy the exact abilities that will be replaced. So if an archetype replaces weapon training, you must buy weapon training (thus losing the ability to take it separately), then swap it for the archetype ability. And we require it be taken at the same level as a normal Pf fighter.
<p>It's not perfect, but it prevents some double-dipping in specific cases.</p>Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:I have a question regarding talented fighters. If I want to use an archetypes that replaces a progression of class features, but I want to build a talented fighter, is it balanced to start out with a standard PF fighter, apply the archetype, then go and replace the bonus feats and all non-archetype class features remaining with fighter talents?
In general, the way we've handled this (which hasn't been thoroughly playtested), is to take a talented fighter and...Owen KC Stephens (alias of OWEN STEPHENS)2014-12-10T12:03:04ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineKelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2602014-12-10T09:01:03Z2014-12-10T09:01:03Z<p>When you finish all the Talented PDFs for every single class, which is over 60 PDFs or so, could you perhaps compile a hardcover of every Talented PDF plus assorted extra talents, art, and stuff? That would be amazing.</p>When you finish all the Talented PDFs for every single class, which is over 60 PDFs or so, could you perhaps compile a hardcover of every Talented PDF plus assorted extra talents, art, and stuff? That would be amazing.Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2014-12-10T09:01:03ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineDelos Fearhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2592014-11-27T10:14:49Z2014-11-27T10:14:49Z<p>Any updates available what so ever?</p>Any updates available what so ever?Delos Fear2014-11-27T10:14:49ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineScorpioni (alias of stephane abs)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2582014-10-31T10:10:33Z2014-10-31T10:10:33Z<p>Any update on the talented bestiary? Go Dark Mistress go!</p>Any update on the talented bestiary? Go Dark Mistress go!Scorpioni (alias of stephane abs)2014-10-31T10:10:33ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineDelos Fearhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2572014-10-21T11:30:38Z2014-10-21T11:30:38Z<p>From what I have seen the way you are thinking to use archetypes works fine. I have tried it myself more than a few times and it has worked well with little to no balance issues.</p>From what I have seen the way you are thinking to use archetypes works fine. I have tried it myself more than a few times and it has worked well with little to no balance issues.Delos Fear2014-10-21T11:30:38ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineKelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2562014-10-20T18:06:26Z2014-10-20T18:06:26Z<p>I have a question regarding talented fighters. If I want to use an archetypes that replaces a progression of class features, but I want to build a talented fighter, is it balanced to start out with a standard PF fighter, apply the archetype, then go and replace the bonus feats and all non-archetype class features remaining with fighter talents? Like, I want to be a <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo—-fighter-archetypes/mutation-warrior" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mutation Warrior</a>, so I take the PF Fighter, replace all the armor mastery with the archetype abilities, then replace the bonus feats, weapon training, and bravery with fighter talents, and gain access to higher tier talents as normal for a talented fighter. Likewise, if I want to be a <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo—-fighter-archetypes/mutation-warrior" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Tactician</a>, is it balanced to do something similar, replacing all the standard PF fighter features with those provided by the archetype first, then replacing what features are left with talents while assuming their expanded bonus feat options should apply to the bonus feat talent? Is this a good way to handle archetypes that don't translate over to talents well, or is it liable to go wonky?</p>
<p>I think this could be applied to rogues about as well as fighters, and I think cavalier would prove workable, but I get the feeling monk would get wonky fast. I don't own the other talented PDFs, so dunno on those.</p>I have a question regarding talented fighters. If I want to use an archetypes that replaces a progression of class features, but I want to build a talented fighter, is it balanced to start out with a standard PF fighter, apply the archetype, then go and replace the bonus feats and all non-archetype class features remaining with fighter talents? Like, I want to be a Mutation Warrior, so I take the PF Fighter, replace all the armor mastery with the archetype abilities, then replace the bonus...Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2014-10-20T18:06:26ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineOnyewuhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2552014-10-16T21:56:08Z2014-10-16T21:56:08Z<p>I'm also salivating over the Talented Alchemist.</p>I'm also salivating over the Talented Alchemist.Onyewu2014-10-16T21:56:08ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineKelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2542014-10-31T20:22:19Z2014-10-16T19:04:32Z<p>Alchemist. I want to see the alchemist next. I will buy it the instant I have the money in my account. I must have it. The alchemist is the most numerous magic user in my campaign setting and practices what is fluffed as a very diverse and important art, so the variety of roles for the class provided by a Talented PDF would be an amazingly useful resource.</p>Alchemist. I want to see the alchemist next. I will buy it the instant I have the money in my account. I must have it. The alchemist is the most numerous magic user in my campaign setting and practices what is fluffed as a very diverse and important art, so the variety of roles for the class provided by a Talented PDF would be an amazingly useful resource.Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert (alias of Kelsey MacAilbert)2014-10-16T19:04:32ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineMarc Radlehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2532014-10-31T20:22:09Z2014-10-16T18:16:43Z<p>Hey DM! Long time no see! :)</p>Hey DM! Long time no see! :)Marc Radle2014-10-16T18:16:43ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineDark_Mistresshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2522015-06-07T20:31:27Z2014-10-16T17:13:38Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Owen KC Stephens wrote:</div><blockquote><p> (And three votes for the Dark Mistress vote above, which will have to wait until the Talented Bestiary [by RPG Superstar winner Steven T. Helt and his Four Horsemen group] is published)
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</blockquote><p>Though if you do make a book about my talents it will have to be so heavily censored it will mostly just be black lines with the occasional word here and there. Not sure many people would consider that a good buy.Owen KC Stephens wrote:(And three votes for the Dark Mistress vote above, which will have to wait until the Talented Bestiary [by RPG Superstar winner Steven T. Helt and his Four Horsemen group] is published)
Though if you do make a book about my talents it will have to be so heavily censored it will mostly just be black lines with the occasional word here and there. Not sure many people would consider that a good buy.Dark_Mistress2014-10-16T17:13:38ZRe: Forums: Product Discussion: [Rogue Genius Games] Talented Classes product lineShareethhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh6m&page=6?Rogue-Genius-Games-Talented-Classes-product-line#2512014-10-07T01:51:58Z2014-10-07T01:51:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Owen KC Stephens wrote:</div><blockquote><p> At this point I am pretty sure I'll be doing all of them eventually, weirdly I suspect witch and bard will be first.
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</blockquote><p>I vote for Magus, just to push it along a lil more. Also, in the scheme of things when would we see a Talented Bard, since Talented Witch will be out sometime this month? I suspect it would be Magus then Alchemist then Bard?Owen KC Stephens wrote:At this point I am pretty sure I'll be doing all of them eventually, weirdly I suspect witch and bard will be first.
I vote for Magus, just to push it along a lil more. Also, in the scheme of things when would we see a Talented Bard, since Talented Witch will be out sometime this month? I suspect it would be Magus then Alchemist then Bard?Shareeth2014-10-07T01:51:58Z