I have a player playing a 7th level summoner. He has Craft Wondrous Item and knows Alter Self and Tongues. He therefore has the prerequisites to create a robe of blending, but he'd be limited to creating one with CL 7 rather than the CL 10 for the "standard" robe of blending listed in CRB. So my first question is how would the reduced caster level impact the item? There seems to be no relation at all between the 1 hour usage time of the CRB robe of blending and and the caster level (at CL 10, Alter Self should last 10 minutes and Tongues should last for 1 hour and 40 minutes!). So what should i do? Separately, i simply cannot understand how the price of 8,400 gp for the CRB robe of blending was calculated based on the magic item cost system set out on page 550 of the CRB. Any help would be appreciated
That isn't how it works, not quite. I mean, you can do it however you like in your games... but you are trying to vastly overcomplicate things.
It is the item's caster level that sets the difficulty of the skill check. It isn't a requirement. And for those item creation feats where it is a requirement, it can be bypassed by increasing the DC.
What is required to make it is;
Construction Requirements
Craft Wondrous Item, alter self, tongues; Cost 4,200 gp
The check DC is 15.
The DC would be 20, if he didn't have both alter self and tongues, but had one of the two.
The DC would be 25 if he had neither spell.
Thanks, that's helpful, but i still can't see how they arrived at the price or the 1 hour time, am i missing something?
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Thanks, that's helpful, but i still can't see how they arrived at the price or the 1 hour time, am i missing something?
Yes.
You are under the assumption that all magic items are priced by a set formula.
This is not true.
Likely, you looked at the tables in the custom magic item section, and believed the formula for estimating the cost of said custom magic item, is the be all, end all, formula, for everything.
You are mistaken.
Thanks, that's helpful, but i still can't see how they arrived at the price or the 1 hour time, am i missing something?
Lots of Ad Hoc. Haha.
The use of the tongues-like power isn't full fledged tongues. It has the added limit of being only 1 language at a time, instead of every language. This is a fraction of the effect of Tongues, and thus is very minor in cost modification.
The duration is longer than the spell would be for Alter Self, but it only works once a day. So, for a base price, it'll be in the (10x2x2k)/5 ballpark, ie 8k.
That is my best explanation. But mostly it is because: Because.
Okay, that seems to make sense, so my player can make a CRB robe of blending with the same 1 hour usage limit 1/day, even though he's only 7th level and the price will be 4,200gp. As he has the spells, the DC for the craft wondrous item feat is calculated as normal based on the CL listed for the CRB robe of blending. That makes sense, you're right i was seriously over-complicating it! Your explanation for the "rough" price also makes sense so i am a wiser man, many thanks!