Travel Domain Dimensional Hop: chances of error like teleport?


Rules Questions


Travel Domain
Dimensional Hop (Sp): At 8th level, you can teleport up to 10 feet per cleric level per day as a move action. This teleportation must be used in 5-foot increments and such movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity. You must have line of sight to your destination to use this ability. You can bring other willing creatures with you, but you must expend an equal amount of distance for each creature brought.

Is this kind of teleportation subject to the same chances of error as the Teleport spell?


I'd say not. The error chances are specific to the teleport spell, not teleportation in general. Anything that doesn't have language to the effect of "this functions as teleport" wouldn't have the error.


No, because you must have LOS to you destination.


warren Burgess wrote:
No, because you must have LOS to you destination.

Could you please elaborate on that? The teleport spell also covers the case of actually seeing the destination:

-“Studied carefully” is a place you know well, either because you can currently physically see it or you've been there often- (6% chance of not ending on target)


Jonathon Vining wrote:
I'd say not. The error chances are specific to the teleport spell, not teleportation in general. Anything that doesn't have language to the effect of "this functions as teleport" wouldn't have the error.

What puzzles me is the language used for the DimHop ability: "you can teleport" and "this teleportation". So, even if the error chance is not specifically mentioned, one could argue that the teleport rules apply (I'm hoping they don't, but there could be a point in that interpretation).


The ability does not say there is a chance for misteleportation, so there is not.

Moreso, the general rules for teleportation do not state that there is a chance for misteleportation.

Only the specific spell 'Teleport' has that chance.


Zhayne is right.

What I meant by LOS not effect is this Phrase in the ability description "You must have line of sight to your destination to use this ability" because you can see where you are going there is no miss chance this is better than studied Carefully be cause you are not trying to target by memory but going to a place you can currently see.


Note that it doesn't say it "works like the spell Teleportation". There's therefore no reason to assume it has similar limitations.

Compare to a Conjuration wizard's Dimensional Slide which specifically says it works like Dimension Door (and is thus subject to the same limitations).


warren Burgess wrote:

Zhayne is right.

What I meant by LOS not effect is this Phrase in the ability description "You must have line of sight to your destination to use this ability" because you can see where you are going there is no miss chance this is better than studied Carefully be cause you are not trying to target by memory but going to a place you can currently see.

Sorry warren, I still don't understand your point. In the Teleport spell the case where you see where you are going IS INDEED filed under "studied carefully", as per the phrase - from the Teleport spell - I quoted earlier:

"Studied carefully” is a place you know well, either because you can currently physically see it or you've been there often"


Zhayne wrote:

The ability does not say there is a chance for misteleportation, so there is not.

Moreso, the general rules for teleportation do not state that there is a chance for misteleportation.

Only the specific spell 'Teleport' has that chance.

Could you please give me a link to the general rules for teleportation? Thank you.


http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/magic.html#_teleportation


The rules for the teleport spell has its own rules. The general teleportation rules say nothing about arriving in the wrong place.


Thank you very much everybody, I'll have my DM take a look at this thread.


Corlindale wrote:

Note that it doesn't say it "works like the spell Teleportation". There's therefore no reason to assume it has similar limitations.

Compare to a Conjuration wizard's Dimensional Slide which specifically says it works like Dimension Door (and is thus subject to the same limitations).

I can't seem to find the Conjuration Wizard's "Dimensional Slide", could you please provide a link?

Thank you very much.


I believe Corlindale is referring to the teleportation subschool of the conjuration school for specialization wizards. Link

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