Tiefling's Fiendish Sorcery- Applies to Bloodrager?


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Shadow Lodge

The (basic) tiefling has a penalty to charisma. Bloodrager specifically states the character takes on elements of their bloodline. Need I say that a tiefling would be awesome as an Infernal Bloodrager?

PRD wrote:
Fiendish Sorcery: Tiefling sorcerers with the Abyssal or Infernal bloodlines treat their Charisma score as 2 points higher for all sorcerer class abilities.

Fiendish Sorcery applies to the two bloodlines, but it is stated that it only works for sorcerers, which were the only class with bloodlines. Now we have two bloodlines, if slightly different. I don't think it is overpowered to rule that Fiendish Sorcery also works for bloodragers.


Far as I can tell, these still count as the base class. They're listed as Alternate Classes and prevent you from multiclassing with the base classes. That is, a Bloodrager counts as both Sorcerer Archetype and a Barbarian Archetype, so anything that counts Sorcerer or Barbarian level would recognize bloodrager level and yes, Tiefling, Aasimar, and the four elemental races should then treat their charisma score as 2 points higher for all bloodrager class abilities.

Shadow Lodge

Aasimar actually don't have that ability, but good point!


They... wait, what? **Double checks, checks alternate features** The hell? Well, okay, weird. I thought they at least had it as an alt feature. Learn something new every day.


Tiefling only have it in the first place to compensate for their penalty. Aasimar already get a bonus ,so it's the last thing they need.

Shadow Lodge

Well, Ifrit have a bonus, and they have something similar.

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