Hexcrafter Magus, Healing Hex (Su), and CLW wands?


Rules Questions


Hi all,

A player of a Hexcrafter Magus with the Healing hex wants to know if his character can use a Cure Light Wounds wand without needing to make a UMD skill check. I haven't seen anything in the rules that allows Su abilities to count as spells for wand activation.

I'm on the fence about it. Is there a ruling I've missed that discusses this use and its legality?

If nothing official has been said about it by the Devs, what are your opinions on the matter?

While we're at it, what about wands of Levitation, Fly, Feather Fall, Disguise Self, Tongues, Comprehend Languages, etc.?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

For Spell Trigger items, you need to be able to cast the spell, or you need to use UMD. Spell-like abilities would count, but Supernatural abilities don't. If it's not on the Magus spell list and he doesn't have a Spell-like ability that grants him the spell, he needs to UMD the wand.


Actually, even if it was a Spell-like ability it wouldn't work:

From the FAQ:

"Spell-Like Abilities as Spells: Does a creature with a spell-like ability count as having that spell on its spell list for the purpose of activating spell completion or spell trigger items?

No. A spell-like ability is not a spell, having a spell-like ability is not part of a class's spell list, and therefore doesn't give the creature the ability to activate spell completion or spell trigger items.

—Sean K Reynolds, 08/22/11"

The Exchange

Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

if he's a good little magus, and wants to burn feats, he can aim for maggambyan arcanist from paths of prestige(?) lets him add druid spells to spell list, and can choose cure light wounds from there. eventually. has to wait till like 7th level or so

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Seraphimpunk wrote:
if he's a good little magus, and wants to burn feats, he can aim for maggambyan arcanist from paths of prestige(?) lets him add druid spells to spell list, and can choose cure light wounds from there. eventually. has to wait till like 7th level or so

Or he could just be happy that Use Magic Device is a class skill for him. (my Half-Elf took UMD as her skill focus feat.)


Thank you all for the advice. You've been a bit help.

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