The henchman Erik / Erek


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I will check for more accurate results when I get home, but I wasn't sure if anyone else has pointed this out yet.

Me and my friends were finished Scenario 3 in The Basic Adventure and came across a spelling error.

The Henchman named Erik (something) is spelled different on the scenario card and his actual card.


Heh, guess it's time for a FAQ entry.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Orik Vancaskerkin's card is correct—Thistletop Delve has the typo.

(We don't put typo corrections in the FAQ.)


Vic Wertz wrote:
(We don't put typo corrections in the FAQ.)

I was just poking fun, didn't mean anything by it. I just figured the "it's worth doing right" motto carried over into everything. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

No worries at all—it's a fair question!


Question about Orik.

When you defeat him in ACG, do you play one or both of his effects.
One power is you can close the location automatically and the other is succeed at a charisma check of 5 to get any boon in the deck.

I wasn't sure and only just said play one of the powers.
I could hop onto the mobile game to check how it was suppose to play.


Hmm... Well, as written under the current rules you have to immediately attempt to close the location if that is what you want to do. So, the only way to use the other power is to pass up the opportunity to close the location.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

This is another case where the evolution of the rules may have undermined the original intent—Runelords didn't really know how to get stuff out of location decks during the closing process, and the concept of "immediately" was also a bit more vague at the time. Mainly, though, we were being really particular about that henchman closing text. At any rate, we want you to be able to do both things. The wording Obsidian has is:

"If defeated, succeed at a Charisma 5 check to search this location deck and choose a boon to draw from it, then shuffle it. Then you may immediately attempt to close the location this henchman came from."

Even this isn't quite right—searching is normally followed by shuffling, so that first sentence can just be "If defeated, succeed at a Charisma 5 check to search this location deck and choose a boon to draw from it."

Added to FAQ.


Vic Wertz wrote:

This is another case where the evolution of the rules may have undermined the original intent—Runelords didn't really know how to get stuff out of location decks during the closing process, and the concept of "immediately" was also a bit more vague at the time. Mainly, though, we were being really particular about that henchman closing text. At any rate, we want you to be able to do both things. The wording Obsidian has is:

"If defeated, succeed at a Charisma 5 check to search this location deck and choose a boon to draw from it, then shuffle it. Then you may immediately attempt to close the location this henchman came from."

Even this isn't quite right—searching is normally followed by shuffling, so that first sentence can just be "If defeated, succeed at a Charisma 5 check to search this location deck and choose a boon to draw from it."

Added to FAQ.

Ok thanks for clearing that up. If my crew ever encounter orik again we'll do both conditions.

It was confusing because both conditions seems like a separate option upon defeating, but on the other hand technically both conditions were filled when defeated.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Just to be clear, it is perfectly acceptable for a card to say "When X happens, do A" *and* "When X happens, do B." In such a case, you would do both A and B, and you would get to decide the order in which you do them. The only problem with this example was that one of the two things was telling you to do it "immediately," meaning you have to do it before the other, and once you did, it became impossible to do the other one.

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