Question on New Blood of the Moon book and Race restrictions.


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I was wondering if I have this right. For things that specifically call for the race, (IE Feats, Traits) the book follows the precedent of the ARG which limits it to the race, disallowing things like Adopted and Racial Heritage from working.

Other things, specifically the Lunar Oracle Mystery, follow the precedent of Blood of Fiends/Angels where they can be used by any race, but come with a strong recommendation to keep it specific to the race?


Sindraelyn wrote:

I was wondering if I have this right. For things that specifically call for the race, (IE Feats, Traits) the book follows the precedent of the ARG which limits it to the race, disallowing things like Adopted and Racial Heritage from working.

Other things, specifically the Lunar Oracle Mystery, follow the precedent of Blood of Fiends/Angels where they can be used by any race, but come with a strong recommendation to keep it specific to the race?

Correct, unless it says otherwise, like for example the new Wolf Style feats for monks specifically say that while they were developed by werewolf monks, anyone can learn them.

Liberty's Edge

Too bad the only things actually legalized by the Additional Resources are the equipment and magic item pages in the back of the book. Weird how they call out the racial feats restriction, but don't actually legalize any pages with feats for that restriction to matter.

Shadow Lodge

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Note: Racial feats, racial traits, and racial spells are only available for characters of the skinwalker race. Racial equipment and magic items can be purchased and used by any race as long as the specific item permits it." means that legal Skinwalkers can select feats from the book.

Liberty's Edge

I would hope so. I am referring more to the fact that those options do not appear to be available to non-skinwalkers even though most of them are not specific to the race.

Paizo Employee 5/5 Developer

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

Liberty's Edge

John Compton wrote:

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

That's a good point, John. I often forget to think of the AR in terms of the in-game world of PFS.

Looking forward to see if/how skin walkers are introduced to the people of the Society.


John Compton wrote:

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

What do we have to do to make were-platypuses a thing? :)

Grand Lodge 5/5 Pathfinder Society Campaign Coordinator

Tarma wrote:
John Compton wrote:

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

What do we have to do to make were-platypuses a thing? :)

Submit a REALLY cool story submission and sell us on making it a reality ;-)

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Tarma wrote:
John Compton wrote:

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

What do we have to do to make were-platypuses a thing? :)

Probably involves a duck, a cobra, a beaver, a chicken, a wizard and a LOT of jagermeister.

Paizo Employee 5/5 Developer

Michael Brock wrote:
Tarma wrote:
John Compton wrote:

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

What do we have to do to make were-platypuses a thing? :)
Submit a REALLY cool story submission and sell us on making it a reality ;-)

An amusing challenge. Perhaps we could fit it into the upcoming Year of the Oft-Maligned Monotreme schedule.

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Were-platypus: that one time Cayden Cailean got Lamashtu super drunk on a dare.


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Michael Brock wrote:


Submit a REALLY cool story submission and sell us on making it a reality ;-)

During a meeting of the deities who were elevated by the Starstone, Cayden Cailean challenged Norgorber to a bet. No one knows any details of the bet, but anyone who communes with Norgorber about the origin of the were-platypuses is instantly smote dead.

Were-platypuses live in secret, while trying to honor both their heritage from Cayden Cailean and Norgorber.

As for why it would be a great idea, since were-platypuses are the rarest and most secretive of the skin-walkers, they would make for excellent rare prize boons for PFS events. They would also allow for a secretive off shoot that would fit into many story campaigns that want a reticent organization that doesn't want to necessarily do its own dirty work.

Grand Lodge 4/5 Venture-Agent, Nevada—Las Vegas aka kinevon

Michael Brock wrote:
Tarma wrote:
John Compton wrote:

As noted in Blood of the Moon, each of the feats/traits/etc. sections is introduced by saying something like "These options are available to were-platypuses, platypus-kin, and those who associate with them." Until the Pathfinder Society has an opportunity to have its members interact with such creatures, we don't have ready access to those features.

Perhaps we'll have a future scenario that explores such.

What do we have to do to make were-platypuses a thing? :)
Submit a REALLY cool story submission and sell us on making it a reality ;-)

Just note: Using any of the following names is an automatic fail:

Phineas, Ferb, Perry, Isabella, Candace, Lindana, Doffenschmirtz, Monogram, Carl. Other names may also activate this fail trigger.

Spoiler:
Already trying to resist making an arcane PC with a platypus familiar, and naming the platypus Perry. ;)


Sindraelyn wrote:
I was wondering if I have this right. For things that specifically call for the race, (IE Feats, Traits) the book follows the precedent of the ARG which limits it to the race, disallowing things like Adopted and Racial Heritage from working.

What exactly CAN we choose if taking Adopted? I thought we could choose any race that is legal and that we have the resource material.

Shadow Lodge

Bahasa wrote:
What exactly CAN we choose if taking Adopted? I thought we could choose any race that is legal and that we have the resource material.

I think the closest answer we have to this is the new FAQ about options that let you count as another race. If we apply that ruling to Adopted, you could use it to take a race trait associated with any race you could play without a boon; alternatively, you could apply a race boon to a character to use the Adopted trait to take a race trait associated with that race, without actually being that race. For example, you could apply a tiefling race boon to a human character to allow you to take a tiefling race trait via Adopted.

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