paizo.com Recent Posts in Stsrting with a firearm...paizo.com Recent Posts in Stsrting with a firearm...2013-11-01T05:05:36Z2013-11-01T05:05:36ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...LoneKnavehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#182013-11-04T19:34:59Z2013-11-04T19:34:59Z<p>Spellslinger starts with a gun too. Also not broken, I think.</p>Spellslinger starts with a gun too. Also not broken, I think.LoneKnave2013-11-04T19:34:59ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...MeridiaCreativehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#172013-11-04T19:09:37Z2013-11-04T19:09:37Z<p>Musketeer starts with a gun as well. And it's not a broken one like the gunslinger and holy gun start with.</p>Musketeer starts with a gun as well. And it's not a broken one like the gunslinger and holy gun start with.MeridiaCreative2013-11-04T19:09:37ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#162013-11-04T18:35:27Z2013-11-04T18:35:27Z<p>Thanks all for the info.</p>Thanks all for the info.Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)2013-11-04T18:35:27ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...aceDiamondhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#152013-11-04T18:16:00Z2013-11-04T18:16:00Z<p>I believe the Spellslinger archetype also gets the ability to get a gun at first level. But I'm not 100% sure right now.</p>I believe the Spellslinger archetype also gets the ability to get a gun at first level. But I'm not 100% sure right now.aceDiamond2013-11-04T18:16:00ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Olavhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#142013-11-04T16:58:34Z2013-11-04T16:58:34Z<p>For sure, should have been more clear. Since humans start with two feats, any human with a level in a martial class (Barb, Fighter, Ranger, Pali ect..) will have the BAB req to pick up exotic wep prof and another feat to get gunsmithing. A fighter of an race gets a bonus combat feat at first so that can easily go to wep prof firearms, whereas the character feat at first can go to Gunsmithing. </p>
<p>With the Rich parents trait and 8 hours on the first day of the campaign said character could craft himself a pistol and still have enough left over for a suit of armor, a good melee weapon, all the knick-knacks needed to start and some bullets. That's how I would do it.</p>For sure, should have been more clear. Since humans start with two feats, any human with a level in a martial class (Barb, Fighter, Ranger, Pali ect..) will have the BAB req to pick up exotic wep prof and another feat to get gunsmithing. A fighter of an race gets a bonus combat feat at first so that can easily go to wep prof firearms, whereas the character feat at first can go to Gunsmithing.
With the Rich parents trait and 8 hours on the first day of the campaign said character could craft...Olav2013-11-04T16:58:34ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...thenobledrakehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#132013-11-04T15:14:28Z2013-11-04T15:14:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jacob Saltband wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Olav wrote:</div><blockquote> Gunsmithing feat, Rich Parents trait, 500 gp to make a pistol. If you are a human or a fighter, should be easy to get all the feats needed to start with a gun </blockquote>In golarian is firearm proficiency an exotic? </blockquote><p>Firearm proficiency is exotic among all the rules options for firearms in a campaign short of "commonplace guns" and "guns everywhere" rules options, in which they are martial and simple weapons respectively.
<p>The default rules option - the one upon which the gunslinger class and firearms prices are built - is that they are exotic.</p>Jacob Saltband wrote:Olav wrote: Gunsmithing feat, Rich Parents trait, 500 gp to make a pistol. If you are a human or a fighter, should be easy to get all the feats needed to start with a gun
In golarian is firearm proficiency an exotic? Firearm proficiency is exotic among all the rules options for firearms in a campaign short of "commonplace guns" and "guns everywhere" rules options, in which they are martial and simple weapons respectively. The default rules option - the one upon which the...thenobledrake2013-11-04T15:14:28ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#122013-11-04T12:44:50Z2013-11-04T12:44:50Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Olav wrote:</div><blockquote> Gunsmithing feat, Rich Parents trait, 500 gp to make a pistol. If you are a human or a fighter, should be easy to get all the feats needed to start with a gun </blockquote><p>In golarian is firearm proficiency an exotic?Olav wrote:Gunsmithing feat, Rich Parents trait, 500 gp to make a pistol. If you are a human or a fighter, should be easy to get all the feats needed to start with a gun
In golarian is firearm proficiency an exotic?Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)2013-11-04T12:44:50ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Olavhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#112013-11-04T08:36:38Z2013-11-04T08:36:38Z<p>Gunsmithing feat, Rich Parents trait, 500 gp to make a pistol. If you are a human or a fighter, should be easy to get all the feats needed to start with a gun</p>Gunsmithing feat, Rich Parents trait, 500 gp to make a pistol. If you are a human or a fighter, should be easy to get all the feats needed to start with a gunOlav2013-11-04T08:36:38ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#102013-11-04T07:39:08Z2013-11-04T07:39:08Z<p>...</p>...Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)2013-11-04T07:39:08ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...LazarXhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#92013-11-01T21:00:47Z2013-11-01T21:00:47Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Jacob Saltband wrote:</div><blockquote> Is there anyway for a first level character start with a firearm besides being a Gunslinger. </blockquote><p>In PFS no, otherwise it's up to your home GM. If the setting is one where there are Guns! Guns! Everywhere!, everyone might be carrying one. In most cases however, they might still be beyond your starting budget.Jacob Saltband wrote:Is there anyway for a first level character start with a firearm besides being a Gunslinger.
In PFS no, otherwise it's up to your home GM. If the setting is one where there are Guns! Guns! Everywhere!, everyone might be carrying one. In most cases however, they might still be beyond your starting budget.LazarX2013-11-01T21:00:47ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#82013-11-01T20:42:39Z2013-11-01T20:42:39Z<p>If you dont have a level in a class that has firearms as a class skill you need exotic weapon proficiency firearms to you gun right?</p>If you dont have a level in a class that has firearms as a class skill you need exotic weapon proficiency firearms to you gun right?Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)2013-11-01T20:42:39ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...lemereshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#72013-11-01T08:45:07Z2013-11-01T08:45:07Z<p>The Rich Parents trait? That is 900 gp right there. Enough to buy one of the lesser single handed guns, or maybe a nice pistol/dragon pistol if you dip (rather heavily) into your class' starting funds. </p>
<p>Although this is kind of a waste of a trait, and quite honestly: you are better off just picking gunslinger. Quick clear is rather much vital to gun use. </p>
<p>Is it banned in your game? Because usually games that ban them really mean "ban all guns". If the GM bans gunslinger without banning guns, then he doesn't want to say he bans guns, but places heavy penalties on them to discourage you.</p>The Rich Parents trait? That is 900 gp right there. Enough to buy one of the lesser single handed guns, or maybe a nice pistol/dragon pistol if you dip (rather heavily) into your class' starting funds.
Although this is kind of a waste of a trait, and quite honestly: you are better off just picking gunslinger. Quick clear is rather much vital to gun use.
Is it banned in your game? Because usually games that ban them really mean "ban all guns". If the GM bans gunslinger without banning guns,...lemeres2013-11-01T08:45:07ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...ngc7293https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#62013-11-01T05:18:44Z2013-11-01T05:18:44Z<p>HOLY GUN (ARCHETYPE)
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Have Gun: At 1st level, the holy gun
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gains the Amateur Gunslinger feat and
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Gunsmithing as a bonus feat. She also
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gains a battered gun identical to the one gained by the
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gunslinger. This ability replaces detect evil.</p>HOLY GUN (ARCHETYPE)
Have Gun: At 1st level, the holy gun
gains the Amateur Gunslinger feat and
Gunsmithing as a bonus feat. She also
gains a battered gun identical to the one gained by the
gunslinger. This ability replaces detect evil.ngc72932013-11-01T05:18:44ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Harkhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#52013-11-01T05:16:10Z2013-11-01T05:16:10Z<p>Play in a setting where firearms are common and not ludicrously expensive?</p>
<p>There are quite a few archetypes for other classes that start with a firearm.</p>
<p>My brain keeps trying to tell me that I've seen a Feat or maybe it was a Trait that lets you start with a small mountain of gold. That might be enough to afford a firearm. Assuming I'm not crazy.</p>Play in a setting where firearms are common and not ludicrously expensive?
There are quite a few archetypes for other classes that start with a firearm.
My brain keeps trying to tell me that I've seen a Feat or maybe it was a Trait that lets you start with a small mountain of gold. That might be enough to afford a firearm. Assuming I'm not crazy.Hark2013-11-01T05:16:10ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...ngc7293https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#42013-11-01T05:15:36Z2013-11-01T05:15:36Z<p>Holy Gun</p>Holy Gunngc72932013-11-01T05:15:36ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Gausshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#32013-11-01T05:15:15Z2013-11-01T05:15:15Z<p>Bribe the GM with pizza, money, or beer. :)</p>
<p>- Gauss</p>Bribe the GM with pizza, money, or beer. :)
- GaussGauss2013-11-01T05:15:15ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Rynjinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#22013-11-01T05:12:06Z2013-11-01T05:12:06Z<p>Not that I know of.</p>Not that I know of.Rynjin2013-11-01T05:12:06ZForums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Stsrting with a firearm...Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qbd1?Stsrting-with-a-firearm#12013-11-01T05:05:36Z2013-11-01T05:05:36Z<p>Is there anyway for a first level character start with a firearm besides being a Gunslinger.</p>Is there anyway for a first level character start with a firearm besides being a Gunslinger.Jacob Saltband (alias of Artglow Saltband)2013-11-01T05:05:36Z