Why do you say that?
Got it for X-Box.
This feels like the straight to DVD sequel of what were great cinematic games.
that's a hefty statement. What makes you feel this way?
I can't play. Every time i run the game and it comes to the screen where you choose the save slot, it crashes. I reinstalled and re-downloaded it two times each. Still crashes.
It's just as well. It uses context-sensitive jumping, so, y'know.
After the first two Arkham games, I am not as interested in the general play-style of the game.
But so far, it has a decent "Year One" feel as you mentioned. What I liked is the usage of the more non-traditional Bat Villains - such as Black Mask, Deadshot, and Firefly. I am playing more for the storyline than the additional features or multi-player.
Enjoying it so far, though the new voice actor for Batman leaves something to be desired. I can't help but laugh at the interrogations. The new voice actor for Joker is a pleasant surprise. Not quite as good as Mark Hamill, but damn close.
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that's a hefty statement. What makes you feel this way?Got it for X-Box.
This feels like the straight to DVD sequel of what were great cinematic games.
The voice acting for one thing makes it feel 'almost but not quite'. The massive bugs (game crashed on starting a new game, sudden slow-downs in framerate for no reason).
Then there was the second boss fight with Slade Wilson. The counter his attack, he counters my attack, I counter his attack back and forth just doesn't work as the developers might have hoped.The Riddler stuff is just pure collectables, without the nifty riddle hunt that I really enjoyed and made me want to explore Arkham City.
Also the entire story could be negated by Batman just staying home on Christmas Eve.
The entire game feels like "almost-but not quite", not really hitting the same level quality as the previous two games.
Oh and there was a weird disconnect where I beat up like 8 police officers who were standing outside minding their own business.I'm like "Is this a GTA Moment?"
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that's a hefty statement. What makes you feel this way?Got it for X-Box.
This feels like the straight to DVD sequel of what were great cinematic games.
The voice acting for one thing makes it feel 'almost but not quite'. The massive bugs (game crashed on starting a new game, sudden slow-downs in framerate for no reason).
Then there was the second boss fight with Slade Wilson. The counter his attack, he counters my attack, I counter his attack back and forth just doesn't work as the developers might have hoped.The Riddler stuff is just pure collectables, without the nifty riddle hunt that I really enjoyed and made me want to explore Arkham City.
Also the entire story could be negated by Batman just staying home on Christmas Eve.
The entire game feels like "almost-but not quite", not really hitting the same level quality as the previous two games.
Oh and there was a weird disconnect where I beat up like 8 police officers who were standing outside minding their own business.I'm like "Is this a GTA Moment?"
It's odd that you say this, because a review I read (I think it was in Gamespot) used almost the exact same wording...
Anyway, I don't have the game yet and won't for quite some time (new games have lots of bugs that I'd rather other people will slog through so that once I buy the game it has been through several patches; besides, I only buy games when they don't cost a lot, say in the steam summer sale). However, from what I hear the storyline is solid and gameplay remains mostly unchanged, which honestly is exactly what I wanted out of the new Arkham game.
Also the entire story could be negated by Batman just staying home on Christmas Eve.
No, it couldn't. Batman repeatedly points out to Alfred that if he stayed home, the assassins would resort to increasingly more violent tactics against the citizens of Gotham to lure him out.
Oh and there was a weird disconnect where I beat up like 8 police officers who were standing outside minding their own business.I'm like "Is this a GTA Moment?"
All of the officers out on the streets are part of Braden's SWAT units (if one of them kills you, Braden will taunt you in the post-death clip), who are described by Batman as uniformly (haha) corrupt. They are working to cash in on the bounty on Batman's head just like all the other assassins.
There are certainly a handful of very valid criticisms of the game (it is currently next-to-impossible to unlock fast travel to one of the city districts because of a bug), but I don't think that the ones above really count.
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The game also likes to have Batman automatically hop up onto the surface after a grapple, even when I haven't pressed A during the grapple to have him do that. This has resulted in me hopping up right in front of a guy with a gun on way too many occasions.
If you hold A while grappling he will grip the ledge instead of hopping up.
OK, did they reverse that from previous games, or am I just confused?The game also likes to have Batman automatically hop up onto the surface after a grapple, even when I haven't pressed A during the grapple to have him do that. This has resulted in me hopping up right in front of a guy with a gun on way too many occasions.If you hold A while grappling he will grip the ledge instead of hopping up.
I can't recall for certain, but it seemed natural to me, so I'm going to guess that it's done the same way it was done in previous games (hold a button/key as you reach the ledge to prevent yourself from automatically climbing up).
When people are discussing glitches, what platform are they playing on? I'm on PC and aside from one bug that prevented sidequest progression, I haven't seen anything in terms of glitches that would deter me from playing at all.
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AAAAAAAAAnd after an hour of futilely trying to beat deathstroke, I give up. Exit, uninstall, give me my money back. Hard is fun. Tedious is not.
EDIT: I beat him. The fight is basically a large QTE where all i had to do was click the right mouse button when the prompt appeared on the screen. Because god forbid a player who wants to be creative in a fight and try different stuff. Naw, let's just beat him to the ground whenever he avoids our glorious QTE extravaganza.
QTEs are evil. When will developers understand that?
AAAAAAAAAnd after an hour of futilely trying to beat deathstroke, I give up. Exit, uninstall, give me my money back. Hard is fun. Tedious is not.
Wow.
I want a HARD game. That i have to really try to finish. Nowdays when i install a game i automatically start it on the hardest setting. And it still isn't almost any challenge.
Older games were hard.
Deathstroke's fight is not tedious. If you think it is tedious, you haven't figured how the fight works yet. Much of the challenge (especially of the "older games" you look back on so fondly) was in deciphering the fight's patterns. A few minutes of fighting Deathstroke should reveal all of them (there aren't that many), after which point the fight simply becomes a question of whether or not you are skilled enough to take advantage of the opportunities the pattern presents you with.
In my experience, "tedious" is one of the go-to excuses for someone to justify finding a game challenging to the point of being unable to progress. Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that the game is actually difficult, especially on Hard mode?
EDIT: I beat him. The fight is basically a large QTE where all i had to do was click the right mouse button when the prompt appeared on the screen.
You mean "countering", the primary combat mechanic that the entire Arkham series is constructed around?
Because god forbid a player who wants to be creative in a fight and try different stuff.
You can try whatever stuff you want once you've beaten his initial defense. Just about any combination of attacks is capable of damaging him after you've successfully completed his counter chain.
Naw, let's just beat him to the ground whenever he avoids our glorious QTE extravaganza.
QTEs are evil. When will developers understand that?
It's the counter system. It's literally just the counter system. The fact that the camera zooms in on it doesn't change the fact that it's still countering.
EDIT: I beat him. The fight is basically a large QTE where all i had to do was click the right mouse button when the prompt appeared on the screen.You mean "countering", the primary combat mechanic that the entire Arkham series is constructed around?
Because god forbid a player who wants to be creative in a fight and try different stuff.You can try whatever stuff you want once you've beaten his initial defense. Just about any combination of attacks is capable of damaging him after you've successfully completed his counter chain.
It's the counter system. It's literally just the counter system. The fact that the camera zooms in on it doesn't change the fact that it's still countering.Naw, let's just beat him to the ground whenever he avoids our glorious QTE extravaganza.
QTEs are evil. When will developers understand that?
qtes and countering are becoming the order of the day in gaming, but not everyone likes them. I'm stoically neutral, but when they come up in a cinema-like scene I'm peeved.
qtes and countering are becoming the order of the day in gaming, but not everyone likes them. I'm stoically neutral, but when they come up in a cinema-like scene I'm peeved.EDIT: I beat him. The fight is basically a large QTE where all i had to do was click the right mouse button when the prompt appeared on the screen.You mean "countering", the primary combat mechanic that the entire Arkham series is constructed around?
Because god forbid a player who wants to be creative in a fight and try different stuff.You can try whatever stuff you want once you've beaten his initial defense. Just about any combination of attacks is capable of damaging him after you've successfully completed his counter chain.
It's the counter system. It's literally just the counter system. The fact that the camera zooms in on it doesn't change the fact that it's still countering.Naw, let's just beat him to the ground whenever he avoids our glorious QTE extravaganza.
QTEs are evil. When will developers understand that?
This isn't a cinema-like scene, though.
The "crime" of actual QTEs (and there are some poor ones out there) is when the button/action prompt is utterly context-less, such that there's no way to anticipate what command you'll need to enter ahead of time. It just becomes a matter of reaction, which is comparatively boring. This is different from a counter system, where moves are broadcasted (to varying degrees) and can be anticipated based on previous experience with the system. In the Arkham series, for instance, it's fairly trivial to anticipate which enemy will be attacking you and when they'll do it based on their movement towards you. Enemies who are waiting to attack will circle, or step forward then back. Enemies who are going to attack soon will break towards you with a brief run. This provides context for the system and allows for a significant degree of learned mastery, which is important in any robust combat system.
When people are discussing glitches, what platform are they playing on?
http://ign.com/articles/2013/11/01/fixes-incoming-for-batman-arkham-origins -problems
I'm on PC and aside from one bug that prevented sidequest progression, I haven't seen anything in terms of glitches that would deter me from playing at all.
Good for you?
When people are discussing glitches, what platform are they playing on?http://ign.com/articles/2013/11/01/fixes-incoming-for-batman-arkham-origins -problems
I'm on PC and aside from one bug that prevented sidequest progression, I haven't seen anything in terms of glitches that would deter me from playing at all.Good for you?
I'm not saying they don't exist, just wondering if I wasn't seeing them because they were on a different platform or just because I got lucky and didn't experience them.
It's worth noting that the most recent patch fixed the one I had encountered, so I imagine they've also been working on patching out other bugs as well.
Wow, codes for the game are cheap on Steam. About 16-17 Euros. I guess the game once again came with Nvidia cards? :p Anyway, got it, installed it and let's see if it holds up to its excellent predecessors.
Beat the game. Well, other than challenge maps and new game plus. Enjoyed the story, thought the side missions were a bit short. Was extremely disappointed with how short the Anarky mission was. Also found the Enigma stuff extremely easy. Was hoping that would give some legs to the game, like Arkham City's Riddler stuff. Took me months to get all of that done. This one I beat in a grand total of 5 days. I am very disappointed. Don't really feel like I got my money's worth out of this one, unlike the previous games. It's not a bad game, but it just feels like they didn't put their full effort into it.
And the "emergency curfew" to keep citizens off the streets is a lousy excuse for there being no innocents out in my opinion. They could have at least put some bystanders in the crime in progress things. It just bugs me a bit.
I just beat the main story and had at least as much fun with Origins as I did with Asylum or City. Some flaws were camera issues and the overpowered electric charged fists. Diving into new game plus now (ps3).
Yeah there were a couple of instances of a bum getting picked on, but the bums were followers of Anarky, so I didn't count them. I was hoping for stuff like someone is being mugged and you have to take down or disarm the mugger without being seen. I guess what I was really hoping for was some variety in the crimes in progress. They were all beat up group picking on this person, two groups are fighting beat up everyone, or someone is selling illegal weapons beat up everyone. There was no thinking involved, just swoop in and beat the crap out of everyone standing.
Was this main story game shorter than the last 2 or did I just progress more quickly? I enjoyed the story, although I had regular issues with freezing on the Xbox 360.
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I got it and blah for a few including unlocking a few areas then I got back to the story and the first cut scene and it crashes every time. I bought this because I enjoyed The other 2 but this one fills like it should have come out before the other two (in terms of control not being as responsive, graphics not as good, and then the fill of the game just makes me think and fill that they half assed the game.)
graphics not as good,
Out of curiosity, what led you to make this observation? There are a few new graphics technologies in Arkham Origins (snow packing, for instance) that weren't in previous games, and I'm not aware of them removing any graphics capabilities from the engine...
Yeah, aside from the occasional glitch and some stuttering in the background (but not the action) during camera pans, the graphics looked fine on my PC, even with my outdated video card. Though I played the previous games on 360, so I can't do a direct comparison.
Once my dad gets his monster rig going, I'm going to pay him a visit to see what the game looks like on that.
Yeah I've played all three games on the same computer with the same video card, and I certainly don't see the graphics degrading over successive releases. I actually thought that some of the particle effects in Arkham Origins (snow drifts, embers) were pretty spectacularly done, and I don't recall Arkham Asylum having particle effects that impressive.
Hrm. Why is it people say Deathstroke is the hardest boss in the game? Unless you fight him again later (I haven't finished the game yet), there are plenty of more difficult fights. He's a straightforward 1 v 1 fight. Punch punch punch, counter counter counter, rinse and repeat.
Compare/contrast:
Bane's super duper f~*@ you rush, that you apparently can't leap over like most unblockable attacks (he smashes you anyway) and which curves pretty darn sharply to follow you, dealing massive damage.
Shiva's "Here, have some ninjas!" fight which was less a boss fight and more a fight with elite mooks and one super elite mook and nevertheless turned out to be one of the harder ones (unless you used the blade block takedown, then it's just lulzy).
Copperhead's "Yeah there's like twelve gajillion guys here, have fun with that" though that one was more of a test of endurance/patience than anything (if you just counter it's really easy, but if you try to actually have FUN with the fight it's hard).
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Thought the environments were hilarious! Batman is 6ft. 2", according to the developers. I get he was "younger, and more inexperienced.", but this stuff was too darn big. Most of the doorknobs came up to his CHIN! The keyboard to the batcomputer was the length of his ARM! I saw poker chips the size of coasters! My dad and I got a hoot and a holler out of that.
I had at least as much fun playing Origins as I did the previous games. The Deathstroke fight wasn't too challenging to me, but was very satisfying.
I really loved the Initiation dlc challenge maps and was pleasantly surprised to see one titled "togakure ryu".
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Finished it and it was, by far, the weakest game of the three. It was still fun and still enjoyable, and the new CSI: Gotham mode was quite a lot of fun. But beyond that the writing was below the standard of the first two. There were moments which really shone, like the Joker 'bonding' with Batman whilst being interrogated by Harley Quinn (though I didn't like that they changed the dialogue from those interviews from what we heard in ARKAHAM ASYLUM, as it would have been a good way of selling the 'prequel' aspect of the game, which otherwise was weak to the level of pointlessness), but for the most part it was subpar.
I also felt the city was too big with too little to do. It was mostly the ARKHAM CITY map with some new bits, but it feels like the game did a much poorer job of where it placed missions and quests, and the optional collectable stuff got much more tedious much more quickly. At this stage, I think they'd benefit from a GRAND THEFT GOTHAM approach, have Batman shooting around in the Batmobile doing missions but also being able to jump out and stop crimes in progress.
The final problem was the absolute avalanch of bugs. Doors refusing to open, the game not registering half of counter-presses, stealth prompts not triggering (particularly noticeable in the final fight with Bane) and, most disastrously, the 'grapple to perch' option not triggering quickly enough. Sitting atop a perch whilst guys shoot at you with shotguns and you're waiting patiently to be able to grapple to another location is not fun. And if you hit the button to early a big NO sign comes up and flashes, and you have to wait until that clears as well. Given that I didn't encounter a single bug in either ASYLUM or CITY, this was just sloppy. The most-bugged AAA release since ROME 2 but, unlike ROME 2, the post-release patches seem to have done sweet FA to fixing them.