whos your favorite empyreal lord?


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Sheave, the Orphan Lord, has had my attention since the sidebar he/she appeared in in the Bestiaries. That is the only time Sheave is mentioned as far as I know, but I'm hopeful for more.


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Ghenshau is a pretty cool defier of norms as well; his overall demeanor suggests he would be Chaotic Good, but he's actually Lawful. A non-uptight deity of order is always nice to have, at least in my eyes!

Ghenshau is definitely a very important deity to have; he's a reminder that Lawful Good doesn't necessarily have to mean "Type A workaholic control freak." In fact, I suspect he fills that role in-universe as well; I'd like to think that a lot of the more wound-up workaholics of the Empyreal Lords sometimes get reminded by Ghenshau that even beings like them need a break every now and again (and he knows from experience), much less their poor mortal followers! Not Vildeis, though; Ghenshau's probably long since given up on that with a sad sigh.

I also like that, like Andoletta, Ghenshau is a Lawful Good deity for ordinary people with ordinary lives to worship. Not everyone who's Lawful Good is going to be some crusading paladin, after all, and a good-hearted day laborer in the big city who'd never think of breaking the law needs someone to worship, too. Just like empyreals like Andoletta are there to remind everyone that even a "little" act of good can mean the world to "little" people, Ghenshau is there to remind everyone that life doesn't have to be a grand adventure or a tireless slog to be happy or worthwhile.


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Irez, all the way. Plus, her artwork is PHENOMINAL.


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What a thread killing potato. Shame.


Potato disciple wrote:
Irez, all the way. Plus, her artwork is PHENOMINAL.

I don't dislike Irez, but what makes her your favorite? Her portfolio's interesting, but unless you've got a big interest in calligraphy or runes it doesn't scream out "favorite EL!" to me. And she doesn't really have much of an established personality (other than, you know, a Neutral Good alignment).


Well I just happened to like runes and calligraphy a lot.

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Irez was one of my top choices as well, for several reasons;

1) Her appearance is very atypical for a celestial, and I love it. She's got a neat naga-like vibe.

2) She's a patron to wizards, while empyreals typically have clerics, paladins, etc. stamped on their bums.

3) A patron of writing, inscriptions, runes, etc. AD&D, and PF after it, has always had a rich assortment of symbols, glyphs, sigils, etc. and a heavy focus on magical inscriptions, be they wizard's spellbooks or magical scrolls, and it's cool to have a (demi)god of such things, like Thoth's wife/feminine counterpart, Seshat, a goddess of writing. Christian doctrine has more significance given to the spoken word used during Creation, but other faiths delve heavily into the significance and study of the written word or inscribed characters, including Norse runes, Egyptian hieroglyphs and Hebrew gematria. I love that sort of stuff.

4) A goddess of harrow decks and harrow reading! Very much a Golarion staple, and it's cool to have not only a goddess of such things, but such an esoteric and non-humanoid-ish goddess of such things, playing with mythological connection between serpents and wisdom and secret lore.

5) And those mythological associations. Serpents and wisdom and hidden lore and the Native America Uktena/Unktehi/Uncegila (the horned lake serpent) all come to mind, while her artwork also suggests Egyptian influences, with the many scrolls and hanging inscriptions both suggesting a mummy's wrappings and the hanging written calligraphic charms/mamori pinned to houses to ward off evil or disease in Japanese tradition.


Set wrote:

Irez was one of my top choices as well, for several reasons;

1) Her appearance is very atypical for a celestial, and I love it. She's got a neat naga-like vibe.

2) She's a patron to wizards, while empyreals typically have clerics, paladins, etc. stamped on their bums.

3) A patron of writing, inscriptions, runes, etc. AD&D, and PF after it, has always had a rich assortment of symbols, glyphs, sigils, etc. and a heavy focus on magical inscriptions, be they wizard's spellbooks or magical scrolls, and it's cool to have a (demi)god of such things, like Thoth's wife/feminine counterpart, Seshat, a goddess of writing. Christian doctrine has more significance given to the spoken word used during Creation, but other faiths delve heavily into the significance and study of the written word or inscribed characters, including Norse runes, Egyptian hieroglyphs and Hebrew gematria. I love that sort of stuff.

4) A goddess of harrow decks and harrow reading! Very much a Golarion staple, and it's cool to have not only a goddess of such things, but such an esoteric and non-humanoid-ish goddess of such things, playing with mythological connection between serpents and wisdom and secret lore.

5) And those mythological associations. Serpents and wisdom and hidden lore and the Native America Uktena/Unktehi/Uncegila (the horned lake serpent) all come to mind, while her artwork also suggests Egyptian influences, with the many scrolls and hanging inscriptions both suggesting a mummy's wrappings and the hanging written calligraphic charms/mamori pinned to houses to ward off evil or disease in Japanese tradition.

Fair enough. Thinking about it, it's kind of odd that Soralyon is the one that is more associated with Thassilonian runes/sigils being turned toward good use, though I guess it's because he represents old knowledge and monuments?

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