Animal Companions with Reach


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Silver Crusade

Hey All,

So I was looking for animal companions to use with my animal domain, and I saw the glorious Tyrannosaurus Rex. I wanted to use him, but then I saw this post declaring that the Large Ape has reach. On the Animal Companion listings for Large Ape, there is no indication that the large ape has reach. So am I missing something where there is a solid way to determine that an animal companion has reach?

Thanks in advance for the input :)

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Not really.

There;s the old large long vs large tall but that's it.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Here you go.

Silver Crusade

Nefreet wrote:
Here you go.

Thanks. But now how do we determine if a Animal Companion would be Large(Long) or Large(Tall). Is there a resource that specifies that?

Liberty's Edge

I thought the "long" and "tall" were just holdovers from 3.5 that are no longer used in Pathfinder. Other that that chart, there aren't any other references to such things that I can find.

2/5

There are no "long" or "tall" stipulations, but the roots are there. So vertical creatures still have more reach than flatter ones. (But flatter ones usually have better speed and resist trip better.)
The Bestiaries' Large bipeds have reach.
The quadrupeds don't until Huge, when bipeds move to 15' reach.
Exceptions exist, such as for many of the tentacled beasts, or the small Mandragora, but it's consistent.
True Dragons, with their bites, are one of the few non-stretchy quadrupeds with reach equal to a biped. Or better, when Tiny.

Coming at it from a different direction, the Large Apes in the Bestiary have reach, so when your Ape AC is Large, it does too, as reach is not a SA, SQ, etc., just a function of size.
Comparable to when somebody takes a Large Cat AC. If it's a Lion, it has fewer chances to grab then if you chose Tiger (because the CRB doesn't stipulate which attacks get grab, and the Bestiary does, giving more to the Tiger.)

Okey-dokey?

Cheers, JMK

Silver Crusade

Castilliano wrote:

There are no "long" or "tall" stipulations, but the roots are there. So vertical creatures still have more reach than flatter ones. (But flatter ones usually have better speed and resist trip better.)

The Bestiaries' Large bipeds have reach.
The quadrupeds don't until Huge, when bipeds move to 15' reach.
Exceptions exist, such as for many of the tentacled beasts, or the small Mandragora, but it's consistent.
True Dragons, with their bites, are one of the few non-stretchy quadrupeds with reach equal to a biped. Or better, when Tiny.

Coming at it from a different direction, the Large Apes in the Bestiary have reach, so when your Ape AC is Large, it does too, as reach is not a SA, SQ, etc., just a function of size.
Comparable to when somebody takes a Large Cat AC. If it's a Lion, it has fewer chances to grab then if you chose Tiger (because the CRB doesn't stipulate which attacks get grab, and the Bestiary does, giving more to the Tiger.)

Okey-dokey?

Cheers, JMK

So it would be safe to assume that since the Tyrannosaurus is bi-pedal, and its bestiary entry has reach, that the Large version would have reach? Awesome, I get to stick to my Dino buddy :)

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Amoran wrote:


So it would be safe to assume that since the Tyrannosaurus is bi-pedal, and its bestiary entry has reach, that the Large version would have reach? Awesome, I get to stick to my Dino buddy :)

Not safe until you reduce him from Gargantuan.

So Gargantuan 20', would have 15' at Huge, so 10' at Large, so yes, your companion will have it when Large.
Yay!

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