Ryuko |
So this one is inspired by my SO, who decided to create a catfolk paladin of Shelyn for our upcoming Wrath of The Righteous game, and started looking into backstory to find... well... nothing. We could find nothing on where Catfolk come from or anything on their culture, beliefs or outlook. I originally thought they were from Tian Xia but after looking through Dragon Empires Gazetteer I could find no mention. Am I going crazy? Is there any info on this? Am I just looking in the wrong places?
So I went ahead and took it to the crowdsourcing that is the boards. Find me lore pieces my loyal minions... err... Good friends!
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Luthorne |
There is currently almost nothing about them within the context of Golarion, though according to James Jacobs, as Albatoonoe said, they are predominantly from Southern Garund; he's said that if they ever did a version of Dragon Empires Gazetteer/Primer for Garund, they would be one of the races listed. As a result, you'll probably have to come up with most of it, though the information in Bestiary 3 and the Advanced Race Guide, while not Golarion-specific, should still be helpful in envisioning possible societies in Southern Garund, or evolving a backstory that explains why their tribe emigrated closer to the Inner Sea region in the past...Angazhan does have dealings in the Mwangi Expanse for a potential demonic tie-in, though that might be a bit far north...but perhaps not always? Well, there's plenty of possibilities, ranging from the exotic and fantastical to the relatively mundane.
Edit: Ninja-ed by James Jacobs himself!
Tectorman |
There is a nation of catfolk in Southern Garund. We've not said much about them yet though.
Yet.
Do ya'll have it set yet when you'll reveal the other parts of the world? We have Casmaron, southern Garund, Vudra, Sarusan, and Arcadia still with little more than the blurbs in the ISWG.
Detect Magic |
Can always look to the leonin/nacatyl of Magic the Gathering. The former are a proud, warrior-culture that places bravery and honor above all things. The latter, I believe, are jungle-dwelling opportunists to some degree. They do what they must to survive, in small family/tribal groups.
The khajiit, from the Elder Scrolls universe, might be a good basis for Golarion's catfolk, as well.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs wrote:There is a nation of catfolk in Southern Garund. We've not said much about them yet though.Yet.
Do ya'll have it set yet when you'll reveal the other parts of the world? We have Casmaron, southern Garund, Vudra, Sarusan, and Arcadia still with little more than the blurbs in the ISWG.
We certainly have a vague internal idea/schedule of when we want to go exploring other continents, as well as a vague order in which we want to explore them, but we've not revealed either yet publicly.
Lord Fyre RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32 |
Greylurker |
beyond Southern Garund you could probably just work with your DM to make something up.
My group's version of Golarion ended up with 2 breeds of them just because of the two different art styles of them. The more cat like ones with the full out Cat head come from the south and behave more like Lion Prides culturally while the more human looking ones come from the north and are more wandering gypsy sort of culture.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
James Jacobs Creative Director |
5 people marked this as a favorite. |
I do wonder why they cannot be unlocked (via a boon) in the Pathfinder Society.
Because part of the Pathfinder Society campaign is the fact that the campaign is intended to represent the core races—Golarion is not a setting where a lot of unusual humanoid races hang out in Star Wars Cantina style.
Vod Canockers |
Vod Canockers wrote:So can a Catfolk be a Werewolf?Catfolk are humanoids, and therefore can be lycanthropes...
...but that's, storywise, a poor idea, since they're already animalistic looking. Lycanthropes are MUCH more interesting when they're humans or other close-to-human characters.
How about Werehuman?
I did mean that humorously, the cat that turns into a dog...
Slime |
James Jacobs wrote:Vod Canockers wrote:So can a Catfolk be a Werewolf?Catfolk are humanoids, and therefore can be lycanthropes...
...but that's, storywise, a poor idea, since they're already animalistic looking. Lycanthropes are MUCH more interesting when they're humans or other close-to-human characters.
How about Werehuman?
I did mean that humorously, the cat that turns into a dog...
I like the "werehuman" idea. It would make a intersting story where a fey curse turn animals to people. I think there was also a D&D edition that considered that both animals turning to humans and humans turning to animal were included in the lycanthopes.
I must mention that dogs seem to have been completly left behind in the folk-part. It must be a come-back feeling to me from RIFT but the absence of a form of Dog-Folk left a bit of bitterness to me...
But I did patch-up the stats of 1/2-orcs varients and changed the fluff to include it in my settings.
I still have to ask: why no dog-folk?
Noyoumaynotpetme |
Vod Canockers wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Vod Canockers wrote:So can a Catfolk be a Werewolf?Catfolk are humanoids, and therefore can be lycanthropes...
...but that's, storywise, a poor idea, since they're already animalistic looking. Lycanthropes are MUCH more interesting when they're humans or other close-to-human characters.
How about Werehuman?
I did mean that humorously, the cat that turns into a dog...
I like the "werehuman" idea. It would make a intersting story where a fey curse turn animals to people. I think there was also a D&D edition that considered that both animals turning to humans and humans turning to animal were included in the lycanthopes.
I must mention that dogs seem to have been completly left behind in the folk-part. It must be a come-back feeling to me from RIFT but the absence of a form of Dog-Folk left a bit of bitterness to me...
But I did patch-up the stats of 1/2-orcs varients and changed the fluff to include it in my settings.
I still have to ask: why no dog-folk?
Wolves are same species as dogs (Canis). Otherwise, why not tigerfolk, lionfolk, cheetahfolk, leopardfolk, margayfolk, ocelotfolk, ad nauseam? So...wolf folk if you include lycanthropes, but as a pc race consider Aasimar related to Agathions (of which there is a probably a subgroup similar to Lupinals (DnD) I don't have a bestiary, but I believe there is an equivalent.
The Quite-big-but-not-BIG Bad |
They are from another dimension
No umbrella ears, doesn't hold up.
Wolves are same species as dogs (Canis). Otherwise, why not tigerfolk, lionfolk, cheetahfolk, leopardfolk, margayfolk, ocelotfolk, ad nauseam? So...wolf folk if you include lycanthropes, but as a pc race consider Aasimar related to Agathions (of which there is a probably a subgroup similar to Lupinals (DnD) I don't have a bestiary, but I believe there is an equivalent.
How much you wanna bet we'll have Lionfolk before long?
darkwarriorkarg |
darkwarriorkarg wrote:They are from another dimensionNo umbrella ears, doesn't hold up.
They're from the Kzinti Hegemony, no bat ears :-)
"...the Kzintis have seen some changes for the SFU compared to Niven's Known Space universe. While the original episode kept close to Niven's descriptions, SFU art has always shown Kzintis with cat ears and furred tails. More recently it was decided that Kzinti females are sentient (something that had not been explicitly stated either way until the production of GURPS Prime Directive). Finally, there is a difference in grammar: In Known Space, the singular is 'Kzin' and the plural is 'Kzinti'; in SFU, the singular is 'Kzinti' and the plural is 'Kzintis'."
Fabius Maximus |
Ok I will cut the discussion short and explain where catfolk are from.
It's ANIME!!!!! Really I am surprised that everyone just forgot that. But then again it's nice to solve a problem so fast. Now go outside and play and stay away from big balls of yarn and Mumra the ever living.
Yeah, about that....
thejeff |
Snowleopard wrote:Yeah, about that....Ok I will cut the discussion short and explain where catfolk are from.
It's ANIME!!!!! Really I am surprised that everyone just forgot that. But then again it's nice to solve a problem so fast. Now go outside and play and stay away from big balls of yarn and Mumra the ever living.
Who knew anime was that old? Or that the Japanese had already made it to Germany by then?
More seriously, catfolk was definitely been a thing in Western fantasy/SF before anime became popular over here. OTOH, anime certainly has helped drive their popularity in the last couple decades.