Helping during an encounter


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Liberty's Edge

So, I'm not sure that I really understand, so here is a noob comparison:

From the FAQ:

When Harsk encounters a henchman, can Merisiel evade it for him if she's at his location? Can she make Harsk's combat check against it? If Harsk beats the henchman but can't close the location, can she try to close it? What if it's a barrier—can she use her Thieves' Tools to defeat it?
She can't do any of those things. It's Harsk's encounter, and Merisiel can't do any part of it for him unless a card or other rule says she can.

From the rulebook(p.10):

Any character at that location can attempt one or more of the checks, as long as the character who encountered thé bane attempts at least one of them.

...So! What if Amiri is with Lem at location X. It's Lem's turn and after exploring, he encounters a hill giant.
1) Can Amiri attempt to defeat thé giant out of her turn?
2) Does Lem takes damage if Amiri defeats the giant but Lem does not?

Thanks!


The passage you are referring to in the rule book is related to 2 or more checks that are connected by "then". If "then" connects 2 checks then another player at your location may attempt one or more of them as long as the player that encountered ithe Boon/bane attempts at least one of them.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Liberty's Edge

So, if à bane requises only à single check to defeat, only thé current character can attempt it. But if there is two or more checks, one after thé other, many characters may try?

How is it working?
1- Amiri succeeds at thé first combat check and ends her turn. Then Lem can attempt thé next check on his turn?
OR
2- Amiri succeeds at the first, then immediately, Lem makes thé other?

Seems a little confusing, no?
...or my English Second Languages classes are too far behind! :P

Liberty's Edge

Wow, sorry for all the accents my cellphone adds! :P

Liberty's Edge

I think that what confused me is this interpretation:

If Amiri is there when Lem gets an encounter, she can make a combat check as long as Lem makes one too.

At least, nothing in thé cited passage (or around it) seems to contradict this interpretation...


As I understand it:

If Lem is the one who encountered the monster then so long as Lem makes one of the combat checks, it does not matter which one or in which order. However, just keep in mind that one some, failing either check means that the monster is undefeated. (There are a few card that will say specifically that only the second check counts.) I hope this clarifies things for you and I hope even more than I am not incorrect.

Good gaming to you!

Liberty's Edge

So every party member could make checks to help defeat thé bane on Lem's turn, as long as hé try one of them?

Silver Crusade

Louis-Philippe Desroches wrote:
So every party member could make checks to help defeat thé bane on Lem's turn, as long as hé try one of them?

Only if there is more than one combat check to defeat it.

Most monsters only have one check to defeat them, so the player who encountered them has to be the one who makes the check.

But for a villain that has two combat checks, the player who encountered the monster must make one of the two checks, but anyone else at the location can make the other.

In the simple case where Lem and Amiri are together when Lem encounters a hill giant, this means that Lem must fight the giant alone.

If Amiri has a card like a blessing that can affect the check, she can help him that way. But she can't fight it for him, or use her weapons to help, because weapon cards always say "your combat check", meaning it can only be used in her own fights.

Liberty's Edge

Totally clear now!
Happy to have this cleared up before doing anything else than playing solo to learn the game (and show it to other people later "GM one day...")
Thanks everyone!

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