Grenadier's Hybridization-Funnelized & Alchemical-Weaponized Explosive Missile of DOOM (tm)


Rules Questions


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regarding the Hybridization Funnel: Ultimate Equipment pg. 304
1) Is Shard Gel considered a liquid for use with Hybridizataion Funnel? (i.e. only blends alchemical "liquids")
2) Can you use HF to combine Holy Water and Ambrosia (Advanced Race Guide pg. 1) to make a splash weapon doing double dice damage? (which presupposes Ambrosia can be used as a splash weapon in the first place…)

regarding Grenadier’s Alchemical Weapon (Supernatural Ability)
3) Can you use a Hybridized Funnelized alchemical product with Alchemical Weapon ability, e.g. use AW to magically infuse an arrow with an Alch Fire & Acid combo?
4) Does Abundant Ammunition interact with Alchemical Weapon the same way it does with Magic Weapon, i.e. if you cast Abundant Ammo first, then use AW to magically infuse an arrow, is it replenished as AW-boosted ammo the next round?
5) Can you use AW to infuse something to an alchemical weapon? E.g. infuse Flash Powder to a Thunderstone to make a flashbang (granted, by RAW, the flash affect would only affect the direct target, not AoE, though Thunderstone should work as normally). What about using AW to infuse a Tanglefoot or Tangleburn bag?

regarding Alchemist’s Explosive Missile Discovery (Supernatural ability)
6) Can you infuse an Alchemical Weapon to arrow (move action), then stack Explosive Missile (standard action) on that arrow? Nothing in RAW seems to contradict this one.
7) If Abundant Ammo has been cast, and then you use Explosive Missile, does it get replenished as an Explosive Missile beginning of next round?
8) While this has been mentioned on more than one thread, I'd love confirmation: Since Explosive Missile makes it a Standard Action to infuse, load, and shoot an arrow or bolt, you can use it to infuse load and shoot a Heavy Crossbow as a Standard Action? that's RAW, right?
9) Can you use Alchemical Weapon to infuse a Raining Arrow with an extra (full) dose of Holy Water (or Ambrosia)? Again, seems like RAW says yes (though the extra dose of HW would deal damage to direct target only on a successful hit)

10) Does an Alchemist get +INT bonus to damage with Raining Arrow (since it damages as a splash weapon)?

Liberty's Edge

Uktar wrote:

regarding the Hybridization Funnel: Ultimate Equipment pg. 304

1) Is Shard Gel considered a liquid for use with Hybridizataion Funnel? (i.e. only blends alchemical "liquids")
Yes

2) Can you use HF to combine Holy Water and Ambrosia (Advanced Race Guide pg. 1) to make a splash weapon doing double dice damage? (which presupposes Ambrosia can be used as a splash weapon in the first place…)

Yes you could, but having just read ambrosia, not sure where you are getting that it would double damage. Its brewed from holy water it does not act like holy water

regarding Grenadier’s Alchemical Weapon (Supernatural Ability)
3) Can you use a Hybridized Funnelized alchemical product with Alchemical Weapon ability, e.g. use AW to magically infuse an arrow with an Alch Fire & Acid combo?

Absolutely its way fun. Not the best combo btw, contemplate tanglefoot and Ghast Wretch, or Holy Water and Ghast Wretch.

4) Does Abundant Ammunition interact with Alchemical Weapon the same way it does with Magic Weapon, i.e. if you cast Abundant Ammo first, then use AW to magically infuse an arrow, is it replenished as AW-boosted ammo the next round?

No, at least i have never heard any GM say yes. You infuse the arrow after it leaves the quiver.

5) Can you use AW to infuse something to an alchemical weapon? E.g. infuse Flash Powder to a Thunderstone to make a flashbang (granted, by RAW, the flash affect would only affect the direct target, not AoE, though Thunderstone should work as normally). What about using AW to infuse a Tanglefoot or Tangleburn bag?

At 2nd level, a grenadier can infuse a weapon or piece of ammunition with a single harmful alchemical liquid or powder, such as alchemist’s fire or sneezing powder, as a move action. This action consumes the alchemical item, but transfers its effect to the weapon in question.
So yes you could, Thunderstone is listed as an Alchemical Weapon , so the weapon part of that makes the answer yes, but i think you are wasting the potential of this ability doing that. Remember the transferred affect only lasts a minute.

regarding Alchemist’s Explosive Missile Discovery (Supernatural ability)
6) Can you infuse an Alchemical Weapon to arrow (move action), then stack Explosive Missile (standard action) on that arrow? Nothing in RAW seems to contradict this one.

Yes for sure, cant do that with my alchemist yet but have seen/heard of, it being done.

7) If Abundant Ammo has been cast, and then you use Explosive Missile, does it get replenished as an Explosive Missile beginning of next round?

The missile itself yes, but Explosive Missile expends a use of your bomb ability, you dont get that back due to Abundant Ammo. That missile takes up that bomb use until it is fired regardless of any other spell cast.

8) While this has been mentioned on more than one thread, I'd love confirmation: Since Explosive Missile makes it a Standard Action to infuse, load, and shoot an arrow or bolt, you can use it to infuse load and shoot a Heavy Crossbow as a Standard Action? that's RAW, right?

A missile is a missile no matter how small

9) Can you use Alchemical Weapon to infuse a Raining Arrow with an extra (full) dose of Holy Water (or Ambrosia)? Again, seems like RAW says yes (though the extra dose of HW would deal damage to direct...

Absolutely, you take the -2 to hit. and the infused holy water does not splash, only the rain arrow does.

Cold Iron, Or Silver, Rain arrow infuse Holy water + Ghast Wretch, make for a bad day for evil outsider/undead.


Actually, Ghast Retch is a powder, so you can't Hybridization Funnel it (realized that late last night, much to my chagrin...HF only works on liquids.). But AW Ghast Retch to a Raining Arrow, and you're set. If AC is too high, think about Ghast Retch or Holy water infused to a Dye Arrow for a long range touch attack.

Liberty's Edge

You are correct i was referring to applying the ghast wretch to the rain arrow.

Liberty's Edge

Ghsst Wretch to a tanglefoot arrow is a fav of mine,

So
to Make saves
1 for glued 10 reflex
1 for nauseated. 12 fort

Even if you make those saves
you are entangled and sickened
Sickened 3 rounds
-2 attack, weapon damage, saves, skills, ability
Entangled
Half speed, no charge, -2 attack rolls, -4 dex, concentration check to cast

Those stack, so a -4 attack -2 damage rolls, -4 dex (potential -2ac) -2 saves. Well worth the arrow cost against a big bad at the end of a scenario.

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