Lord Snow |
Really excited. The Spirit realms were oddly absent from season 1, which I thought was a huge miss - the question of "what is the place of a spirit realm in a modern-esque setting" is really intriguing to me. Instead, 70% of season one was about a sports game.
I really liked all seasons of the avatar world so far, and there was a lot to like about the first season of Korra as well, though the rushed ending detracted a lot from it.
Benchak the Nightstalker RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
Grey Lensman |
I hope the villains will not turn out to be Waterbenders again.
You do need some change, but the first villain being from the same bending tradition as the Avatar seems much like the standard cycle. 3 previous Avatars had to deal with human problems. Kiyoshi faced of against Chin (another Earthbender) and Roku faced off against Sozin (another firebender). Aang was only dealing with firebenders because Roku failed. Otherwise I think he would have been dealing with another airbender.
Orthos |
Lord Snow wrote:Maybe I'm an outlier, but I actually really dug the sports game.Instead, 70% of season one was about a sports game.
Same =) I thought it was cool and seemed appropriate to the culture and the advancement of society as shown to have taken the old spiritualism and turned it into something for entertainment. I completely understood why Tenzin was pissed about it, given he was part of the more old-fashioned portions of the cast, but at the same time I found it crazy cool.
Lord Snow |
Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:Same =) I thought it was cool and seemed appropriate to the culture and the advancement of society as shown to have taken the old spiritualism and turned it into something for entertainment. I completely understood why Tenzin was pissed about it, given he was part of the more old-fashioned portions of the cast, but at the same time I found it crazy cool.Lord Snow wrote:Maybe I'm an outlier, but I actually really dug the sports game.Instead, 70% of season one was about a sports game.
Don't get me wrong, I like the concept of pro banding, I just think it was used incorrectly - instead as being the subject of one cool episode, it became the center of a bland "underdog teen sports team rise to glory" plot, that takes a LOT of time from the main plot. Imagine if we only ever saw a single pro banding game, and then the rest of the time would have been spent on developing the main villains (or hack, Korra herself) and setting up a less rushed ending to the story. Instead, we get superficial scenes that mostly serve to shove more banding into the story.
Not saying I didn't enjoy the season, I actually really liked it - even the sport sections. However there is a hidden cost of showing anything in your show - it's that you are showing it instead of something else. I believe in this case there were many superior alternatives.
Orthos |
Yeah, in that case I agree. It was fun but it could have been regulated to two or three episodes max.
I think my main issue with the rushed plot is less that it was rushed and more that I just didn't care for what they did with it.
Dragon78 |
The Equalist had a point but they were lead by a cult leader and like all cult leaders he was big hypocrite and a phony. Keep in mind not all cults have to be religious to considered a cult some are political. Though all cult leaders have things in common such as the need for control, power, manipulation, and attention. But just because there leader is gone doesn't mean there will not be any more problems with the Equalist.
Daethor |
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Yeah, in that case I agree. It was fun but it could have been regulated to two or three episodes max.
I think my main issue with the rushed plot is less that it was rushed and more that I just didn't care for what they did with it.
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Orthos |
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Orthos wrote:** spoiler omitted **Yeah, in that case I agree. It was fun but it could have been regulated to two or three episodes max.
I think my main issue with the rushed plot is less that it was rushed and more that I just didn't care for what they did with it.
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YES EXACTLY.
The Equalist had a point but they were lead by a cult leader and like all cult leaders he was big hypocrite and a phony.
But just because there leader is gone doesn't mean there will not be any more problems with the Equalist.
Yeah, the Lieutenant dude is still out there somewhere, as well as some of the grunts. I imagine they'd be able to rally back and resume operations, though I also assume they'll be less aggressive.
Scintillae |
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I just hope season two is a little less rushed, lighter on the obligatory love triangle stuff, and a lot heavier on Korra actually learning how to Avatar.
LazarX |
I just hope season two is a little less rushed, lighter on the obligatory love triangle stuff, and a lot heavier on Korra actually learning how to Avatar.
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For the longest time it looked like Season 1, (which looked to be the only season) was only going to be contracted to half of the amount of episodes that finally came out. A somewhat simmilar situation to the 5th season of Babylon 5.
LazarX |
I'm aware. Which makes no sense - the Avatar franchise is crazy popular. You'd think Nickelodeon would have known that the sequel would have brought in viewers. So I don't blame the creators for that; I'm hoping that they're taking full advantage of the time they know they'll have from here on out.
It's not enough for the show to bring in raw numbers, it's got to bring in the right numbers for the targeted demographic which responds to advertiser dollars.
magnuskn |
I just hope season two is a little less rushed, lighter on the obligatory love triangle stuff, and a lot heavier on Korra actually learning how to Avatar.
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And basically repeating the same thing the original show did over its three seasons? Yeah, I can see how that would not appeal to the writers. That they are actually doing completely new stuff in Korra is one of the strong draws the show has on me.
Grey Lensman |
It's not enough for the show to bring in raw numbers, it's got to bring in the right numbers for the targeted demographic which responds to advertiser dollars.
I'm not sure how it works on Nick, but on Cartoon Network if the toys aren't selling, the ratings don't matter. The show will get axed.
magnuskn |
Fair point, and I do enjoy the new stuff. I'd be happy with just a nod toward "And you must work toward your success."
I think we'll get that early on in the season. And while I also thought that the transition at the end of S1, when Korra was suddenly able to contact her past lives, was too abrupt, they did set up all elements of the resolution beforehand. It simply felt a bit too fast when, after deciding to not jump off the cliff and kill herself, Korra immediately was able to contact Aang.
I'm looking forward very much to see her interact with her past lives more in the second season!
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LazarX wrote:It's not enough for the show to bring in raw numbers, it's got to bring in the right numbers for the targeted demographic which responds to advertiser dollars.I'm not sure how it works on Nick, but on Cartoon Network if the toys aren't selling, the ratings don't matter. The show will get axed.
Hence why Young Justice got cut. But that was Mattel pulling it's funding. It was also expensive because they, CN, were using out of house voice actors and thus weren't on standard contract salaries.
As to some of the above statements, I liked the pro bending stuff. I felt it complimented the over-all theme of Korra. She's a very physical person and thus the show focused on a very physical aspect of the series. We didn't get much of the mystical/spiritual because it wasn't a strong suit of Korra's. This is even said by multiple times throughout the series. Thus why we're getting a very spiritual focused second season.
Also, I was really disappointed by the season finale. My theory was that Amon was Azula's kid or maybe Ozai managed to have another child secretly. It was a long shot but it would have been cooler I think.
LazarX |
Also, I was really disappointed by the season finale. My theory was that Amon was Azula's kid or maybe Ozai managed to have another child secretly. It was a long shot but it would have been cooler I think.
Oh elements no. Amon's story was perfectly conceived. and part of that is because it does not have anything to do with the previous series, but what came in between. And it has the irony that while the story "Amon" gave out was fake, the true story was that much more tragic, as well as the ending of both brothers.
Orthos |
I agree though that he should be more than that. But I'm willing to give them the time to build up to that.
And yes, the twins were hilarious. Though the fact that the guy in the pair is named Desna is going to cause some confusion among Pathfinder gamers I imagine.
magnuskn |
Well, the animation surely took a hit, that's for sure. Still good, but no comparison to season one. Or it could be that they went a bit more anime-esque with the faces, I don't know.
As for the story, well, they started with a ton of exposition and set-up, which kinda was to be expected. The end, however, was really unexpected and I am looking forward to next week. :)
Dragon78 |
The Korean animation studio they used was contracted to do the first season of Korra(and the original series), it was so much of a strain for them that they opted to not do anymore. The new animation studio is Japanese and I do not think they took a hit it just is different then what you were used too.
magnuskn |
I think the animations were a lot smoother with the old studio, especially some of the facial expressions. This new style seems a lot more jerky than the old one. Not that it is looking bad per se, but it definitely is noticeable in a negative way.
Rynjin |
I haven't watched the episode yet but from what I've read, the studio they've contracted for season 2 is Studio Pierrot, and I know they're a fairly talented one, or at least used to be.
I say give it a shot, see if it smooths out in later episodes or you get used to it if it's just something different to you.
magnuskn |
Magic Square |
First, I really enjoy Last Airbender, and Legend of Korra S1 even if they did undercut the sacrifices of Baifong and Korra with a happy Ang-inspired chi-bending restoration ending.
I think this first episode of Korra S2 has them off to a good start. The formerly oppressed are now the big oppressors, and spirit elements are finally coming to the fore. I'm just a little troubled by all the changes to bending that have developed through these series - after all make believe magical powers need consistency.
First there were the elemental bendings - earth, air, fire and water. (Good classically greek inspired choices)
Then there was blood bending (boo-hiss, evil offshoot of water bending/healing)
Next, metal bending (a Chinese elemental choice and offshoot of earth bending)
Then came chi blocking (hey, its only temporary and non-benders gotta have something)
Followed by chi bending (Granted to Ang and passed to Korra, permanent effect sort of. Bending bending?)
And if the Avatar is "the sole link to the Spirit World", then what was her uncle doing in Episode 1? Sure looked kind of new and "spirity" to me.
I'm just worried that this proliferation of bendings will lead to a swiss army knife situation.
"My Sato-mobile is damaged!" - take it to a fender bender!
"My series needs a rushed and convenient denouement!" - don't worry the writer knows ending bending!
Rynjin |
Honestly the thing with Korra's uncle just looked like an offshoot of healing to me (in the golden light effect, even ignoring the actual effect of returning the spirit to balance). Except it was SPIRITUAL healing rather than PHYSICAL healing, which is very in keeping with the overall series theme of balance (between the physical and spiritual world in this case, and likely for the majority of the season based on the title of the book).
Everything else you listed is just a logical extension of the abilities in question. Blood bending bends blood (liquid, like water, and made up of water). Metal bending bends metal (refined earth. Takes great skill to do, but is possible).
Chi blocking is something very prevalent in martial arts stories. Stunning Fist is a good example from our own game here, hitting pressure points and imparting penalties on the victim. Chi blocking to block bending is a logical extension of that, especially with the way the old sage guy explained the chakra points to Aang in book 2.
Chi bending requires a bit more justification, but I'll take a crack at that one too. The Avatar is the link between the physical and the spiritual. Bending is a spiritual power, though really more of a perfect melding of physical and spiritual, with the spiritual component being more important (you must know the martial arts forms to bend, but even perfect forms won't help you if your spirit is out of whack). Basically, the Avatar in this case reaches in and bends, remolds, or just severs your spirit from the chakra points that control bending.
Somewhat out of nowhere, but keeps with the theme of the spiritual again.