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Liranys wrote:
jemstone wrote:
Liranys wrote:

Ever been to the local SciFi conventions? I work at one of them every year. Heh.

I used to attend BayCon, DunDraCon and SiliCon all the time, and was a regular at DunDraCon. Then my job got crazy and I'm lucky to do one or two (last few years, Fanime and Clockwork Alchemy) in any given year.

There's also some personal reasons that I'd rather discuss off-thread as to why I no longer do certain conventions. Nothing really private to a large degree, just not suited for this thread.

Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Really? That's my hometown. I still go there all the time. Like tomorrow.
Well, Milpitas technically, but hi fellow South Bayer! :D

I have worked at BayCon (aside from this year, I was only an attendee this year), for over 7 years. In registration. We may have met. Hello. lol

We have a Monday Nite 3.5 games that needs players in San Jose.


San Jose is a little far for us. Especially on a Monday. :) That's like 2.5 hours away from Sacto.


Liranys wrote:
Artemis Moonstar wrote:
Liranys wrote:
Artemis Moonstar wrote:
Liranys wrote:
Terquem wrote:
Both! (My games, in particular, have always reflected my own sense of escapist fantasy and an unwillingness to commit to serious business).
I bet you don't live in California near the capital, do you. :P
"near"? Darlin', I'm currently stuck in the cow-town part of the capitol (AKA: Rio Linda). Used to regularly game in Carmichael (Adventures FTW!), but, well... Money went poof.
Really? Wow, you're close! I live in South Sac. Ever been to ConQuest Sac?

Nah, wanted to go, but my money started drying up about six years ago. Last con I went to was Sac Anime, don't remember the year, but the first time in that new hotel after they moved out of Red Lion in Arden.

Actually, despite having lived in Sac for 20 years or so, I've never figured out where "(compass direction) sac" areas are, lol.

Sad that women can't seem to get the same respect in the scientific fields. I can remember a time when women were respected, and damn-near worshiped as better than men. Granted, that was in the history books, but still. Same thing with the whole "skinny is beautiful" thing I have to keep reminding my fiance of. Biologically, human males are attracted more towards bigger women, as it's a sign of capable & healthy child birth. This "Stick figure barbie doll" crap is rather abnormal when compared to the rest of human history. (What can I say, bigger is beautiful!)

BTW. *aol voice* You've got PM! (or, going to be getting one, in a moment. Need to go cook dinner first)

Sign up to run a game. I gave you a link in my return PM. If you run 8 hours of games over the weekend, you get a free weekend badge. :)

I would... If I were comfortable GMing for random people. In all honesty my GM skills are rustier than Bender's Beard when he tries to go sober. Haven't GM'd for a group larger than 2 or 3 in about two years or so.

Plus, I'd rather be a player these days. Between job hunting, writing, and dealing with some ridiculous living conditions, my mental capacity for GMing outside a nice, relatively quiet home game, is extremely short. IE: Stress.

Also... Total +1 on DrDeth's stat mods on gender. I completely approve.


DrDeth wrote:
PIXIE DUST wrote:

Oh speaking of other genders and such...

One thing that always.. bugs me a little is how for most races, males and females are mechanically identacle. That makes no sense. For instance, a female cannot get a strong as a male with equal amounts of effort. If you take a female power lifter, she will near always lift less than an equally skilled male power lifter.

There is a reason why the title strongest human on earth always go to males. Their physiology is specifically designed to be big and strong.

/endrant

While I suppose we could give Males a +2 to Str, to be equally realistic that would mean giving females a +2 to Int, Wis, Con, Dex & CHA, which would seem unbalancing, so we don't. ;-)

I completely approve of this xD. jk jk

Liberty's Edge

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I have a half elf sorceress who I play like a human, one time the players made a remark about her being a woman and me being male, I just kinda shrugged and said: it fit for my idea...I have NO issue with a competent player playing a different gender


PIXIE DUST wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
PIXIE DUST wrote:

Oh speaking of other genders and such...

One thing that always.. bugs me a little is how for most races, males and females are mechanically identacle. That makes no sense. For instance, a female cannot get a strong as a male with equal amounts of effort. If you take a female power lifter, she will near always lift less than an equally skilled male power lifter.

There is a reason why the title strongest human on earth always go to males. Their physiology is specifically designed to be big and strong.

/endrant

While I suppose we could give Males a +2 to Str, to be equally realistic that would mean giving females a +2 to Int, Wis, Con, Dex & CHA, which would seem unbalancing, so we don't. ;-)
I completely approve of this xD. jk jk

Sounds fine to me as well. ;)


Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:
Liranys wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Liranys wrote:
Why do men get a +2 int?

See above. Look at the % of top scientists, mathematicians, and chess players who are male, vs. female. Since we're told to ignore cultural reasons and just look at what's obviously "realistic"...

P.S. Needless to say, I don't think they should.

Our world is male dominated. If all things were equal and you were judged solely on performance and sex never came into it, there would most likely be equal numbers of top scientists, mathematicians and chess players who are female as well as those who are male.
Not necessarily. From what's been covered in Anthropology class, men and women have similar average intelligence, but women have a shallower deviation curve within this spectrum, meaning that men are more likely to be above or below average intelligence than women. So, it may be that there are more particularly intelligent men than women, but also more blockheadedly stupid men. This could make true equality of numbers in top fields unlikely.

Interestingly, there's been studies done on transgender people in academics.

I'll give you one guess what it shows.


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You guys keep attacking Kirth's post that was defending equality of sex. Go read it back and try to read past the first degree.

If we are to defend and promote that all have the same potential, I beleive giving free range all stats for both all genders is a good start...


Laurefindel wrote:

You guys keep attacking Kirth's post that was defending equality of sex. Go read it back and try to read past the first degree.

If we are to defend and promote that all have the same potential, I beleive giving free range all stats for both all genders is a good start...

There are more than 2 genders? O.o


Thomas Long 175 wrote:
There are more than 2 genders? O.o

I think she means intersex individuals, if i'm not mistaking.


Chyrone wrote:
Thomas Long 175 wrote:
There are more than 2 genders? O.o

I think she means intersex individuals, if i'm not mistaking.

There's more than that.


Which is why i said "if", i'm merely human. :)


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Many genderqueer individuals don't identify with binary sex definitions.


Chyrone wrote:

Which is why i said "if", i'm merely human. :)

I know; I wasn't scolding you, I was simply telling you that you were right in not assuming. Sometimes text doesn't convey meaning, sorry :)


Thomas Long 175 wrote:
There are more than 2 genders? O.o

Facebook has something like 40-50 listed sexes/genders, and people identify with even more. Whether or not those are valid is a different topic best not discussed here, it will end poorly most likely. :/

Edited: Darn you auto correct!


Haladir wrote:
Many genderqueer individuals don't identify with binary sex definitions.

This; intention was to be inclusive (since it was a post about inclusiveness).

Being rather clumsy when it comes to genderqueer-ness (<-- see can't even use the right word), I probably didn't use the correct term, or context.

The point was to acknowledge more than the traditional male and female as the only possible gender/sexual identities.


Haladir wrote:
Many genderqueer individuals don't identify with binary sex definitions.

I am wiki'ing stuff now that i hadn't looked into deeper than hearing about until this mentioning.

I've heard of some, but several here are a 1st read to me, though i'm not surprised to find them.

The Exchange

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I had a bad experience at a convention with a smelly, large, very hairy man playing cross-gender at my table and doing it VERY badly, in the vaudevillian "man dresses up in coconuts and wig...makes pouty face...so-called hilarity ensues" way. He went through all the stereotypes about how "women" act: slutty, cares only about the gold/lootz, afraid to be a front-line fighter, dumb, etc.

The racial equivalent would be a white man wearing black-face to a convention to portray a "black" character and saying, "Where da white women at?" and "I sho' love watermelon, yessir" right in front of a group of black players.

As a cisgender woman that guy made me VERY uncomfortable. I suspect he would make cross-gender women uncomfortable too. Hell, I think he'd have made Norman Bates uncomfortable!

If you, dear reader, are going to play cross-gender, I recommend you do not do that. Divest of your stereotypes. Or, if you must use them, mediate them with positive qualities and develop a well-rounded character before you sit down at the table. If my first ever gaming experience had been with that man at the table, I would have walked away and never looked back, and later on, if I had kids, I'd be very reluctant to let any of my children play role-playing games for fear of them becoming like him.


I'm just gonna keep calling em people if that's all right with everybody and if someone wants to be called something other than the regular thing they can ask and I'll be happy to oblige.

Call most people little one regardless of gender or size anyways.


Thomas Long 175 wrote:

I'm just gonna keep calling em people if that's all right with everybody and if someone wants to be called something other than the regular thing they can ask and I'll be happy to oblige.

Call most people little one regardless of gender or size anyways.

What is this "regular" of which you speak?


Tirisfal wrote:
Thomas Long 175 wrote:

I'm just gonna keep calling em people if that's all right with everybody and if someone wants to be called something other than the regular thing they can ask and I'll be happy to oblige.

Call most people little one regardless of gender or size anyways.

What is this "regular" of which you speak?

For a person I have no clue about I default to he or they, then I go with whatever first guess I get based on what they look like, then I go with whatever they ask me to.

Its basically a guide to pronouns. None of my transgender friends really seemed all that offended the first time, they asked me to change my pronouns and I complied (Though I will say I don't think there isn't a person in the group who hasn't slipped up on pronouns yet :P )

I come from idaho... We're pretty frank and really don't care for PC when it comes to pronouns.

Or in other words... "a rose by any other name, would I still set it on fire? Yes. Yes, I would"


My eidolon refers to everyone but the summoner as 'it', even when talking to them directly.

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